Factory Rifle that likes 77gr TMK?

[Megastink]

All this success on game with the 77gr TMK made me realize that I don't have a 223 bolt gun. And after reading some of the key points of the thread over in the firearms section, I have the urge to fill that void. I just want to make it easy and buy a factory rifle. I've narrowed my search down to two contenders: The Ruger American Gen2 and the Howa Mini. Both have the 8 twist I'm looking for for that bullet. I'm hoping someone else has one of those rifles and shoots that bullet and can give me a recommendation. I appreciate your help in advance.

 

[Xnoheros]

I’ve got a Gen 1 RAR and it shoots it like a hot damn. $ per enjoyment it’s my favourite rifle, and my go-to for almost everything now

 

[nobody]

If I was forced to only choose between these 2, I’d choose the ruger.

But why isn’t Tikka on your list? Superior in every quantifiable way to both the options you’ve listed above. Fit, finish, function, reliability, trigger, long term aftermarket support, reputation, quality, they’re all a step above. You can find a blued model for $750 right now, or do some digging around and get them for sub $700 with a little leg work. Why not entertain that?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Factory Tikka 20” barrel. Factory black hills 77 TMK ammo…

2 sight in shots on the right and then 48 shot group on the left.

 

[Megastink]

If I was forced to only choose between these 2, I’d choose the ruger.

But why isn’t Tikka on your list? Superior in every quantifiable way to both the options you’ve listed above. Fit, finish, function, reliability, trigger, long term aftermarket support, reputation, quality, they’re all a step above. You can find a blued model for $750 right now, or do some digging around and get them for sub $700 with a little leg work. Why not entertain that?

I did consider them. Tikka makes a great rifle, no doubt, but I'm just not sure what value I'd be getting for the extra money. If it were up to me, I'd buy another Savage. Most of my rifles I've built myself off of Savage actions. But their twist rates are too slow for my needs. I also want to make the purchase through Cabelas (Ive got GC's to use), and they don't have that model Tikka in that price range. I feel that one of the above rifles will kill a deer just as dead as that Tikka would.

 

[nobody]

Factory Tikka 20” barrel. Factory black hills 77 TMK ammo…

2 sight in shots on the right and then 48 shot group on the left.

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I call baloney on that 48 shot group, the barrel would get too hot and walk shots and they’d open up. Plus what about that flier next to the penny?










***sense the sarcasm everyone

 

[nobody]

I did consider them. Tikka makes a great rifle, no doubt, but I'm just not sure what value I'd be getting for the extra money. If it were up to me, I'd buy another Savage. Most of my rifles I've built myself off of Savage actions. But their twist rates are too slow for my needs. I also want to make the purchase through Cabelas (Ive got GC's to use), and they don't have that model Tikka in that price range. I feel that one of the above rifles will kill a deer just as dead as that Tikka would.

Have cabelas price match. Get an emailed online quote from grabagun or some place like it and take it with and ask them to price match, they’ll do it.

The value you get is in the mechanical reliability and function of the rifle. @Ryan Avery said it on the podcast with Robby denning, “Tikkas are made to kill Russians.” They just flat work. Their triggers don’t freeze up, they don’t gum up in crap conditions, their barrels are high quality, they feed reliably every freaking time, you just don’t ever have to dick with a tikka to make it work.

Honestly, with the price increase on the ruger American gen 2’s over the originals I’m not sure I can see any value in them anymore. They were a great option at $399.99, and I owned/used one as my primary hunting rifle for several years. But not at $6-$700. So your point is moot there with the “value.” My experience with Howa is limited, but I’m not impressed. I had one that never shot better than 2.5-3 MOA no matter what, and my brother has a weatherby vanguard (just a howa in a Monte Carlo stock) that shoots decent. So I’m 50/50 on positive experiences with Howa. But I sure read lots of stories of having to screw with them A LOT to get them to work. I’m just not sure either one of them is what I would call a “good value” based on what I’ve seen.

 

[Maverick1]

Factory Tikka 20” barrel. Factory black hills 77 TMK ammo…

2 sight in shots on the right and then 48 shot group on the left.

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That is ridiculous……ridiculously beautiful…..

 

[mtnwrunner]

And the tikka circle will once again show up.

Randy

 

[Megastink]

Have cabelas price match. Get an emailed online quote from grabagun or some place like it and take it with and ask them to price match, they’ll do it.

The value you get is in the mechanical reliability and function of the rifle. @Ryan Avery said it on the podcast with Robby denning, “Tikkas are made to kill Russians.” They just flat work. Their triggers don’t freeze up, they don’t gum up in crap conditions, their barrels are high quality, they feed reliably every freaking time, you just don’t ever have to dick with a tikka to make it work.

Honestly, with the price increase on the ruger American gen 2’s over the originals I’m not sure I can see any value in them anymore. They were a great option at $399.99, and I owned/used one as my primary hunting rifle for several years. But not at $6-$700. So your point is moot there with the “value.” My experience with Howa is limited, but I’m not impressed. I had one that never shot better than 2.5-3 MOA no matter what, and my brother has a weatherby vanguard (just a howa in a Monte Carlo stock) that shoots decent. So I’m 50/50 on positive experiences with Howa. But I sure read lots of stories of having to screw with them A LOT to get them to work. I’m just not sure either one of them is what I would call a “good value” based on what I’ve seen.

The only Tikka available at my local store is $1,100, and for the $300 out of picket that the American will cost me, again, I just don't see the value in the Tikka. I'm not shooting 3,000 rounds/year; I'll be lucky to shoot 60 out of this new gun per year. I don't need to kill Russians, I need to kill one, maybe three, PA deer per season. If they had the t3X for $750 where I can put my hands on it first, it would more of a contender.

 

[waspocrew]

Out of the two options presented, I’d go Ruger. The American rifles actually are pretty accurate. Smooth and refined? No, but at that price point, I wouldn’t expect it.

Sure the Tikka is nice, but if it’s extra money you don’t want to spend, buy the Ruger and be happy.

 

[Dave Thomas]

I bought my Tikka t3x light stainless for less than $800.

 

[Ferrulewax]

If you look, you can find a tikka (non-stainless) for sub 700, and then get a 75$ rebate.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Most “used” Tikkas for sale at box stores and pawn shops have maybe 40-80 bullets through them. Not even broken in yet. I’ve bought multiple stainless, blued, and “premium” tikka models for around $400-$800.

 

[RockAndSage]

The only Tikka available at my local store is $1,100, and for the $300 out of picket that the American will cost me, again, I just don't see the value in the Tikka. I'm not shooting 3,000 rounds/year; I'll be lucky to shoot 60 out of this new gun per year. I don't need to kill Russians, I need to kill one, maybe three, PA deer per season. If they had the t3X for $750 where I can put my hands on it first, it would more of a contender.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Bolt-Action-Rifles/search?PageSize=24&Sort=4&View=1&Ch-Caliber=.223%20Rem.&Ch-manufacturerName=Tikka

 

[BLJ]

Ruger.

 

[Jsmalls273]

I'd go Ruger out of those 2. I've watched a good number of reviews and reading here and haven't really heard anything that's bad. The biggest thing people here have to say about em is their not a Tikka. Hut I've never handled one.

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[Billy Goat]

Here's an option you should be able to use your points on.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/101675090

I feel like it's a little high for used, bit I still think it's better than the other options, and allows you to purchase through cabelas.


Just putting it out there.

 

[grappling_hook]

Factory Tikka 20” barrel. Factory black hills 77 TMK ammo…

2 sight in shots on the right and then 48 shot group on the left.

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Wow! That's incredible to do with all factory barrel and ammo. Looking at the outer pattern, you must have had 30+ rounds within a half inch.

How long did that take?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Wow! That's incredible to do with all factory barrel and ammo. Looking at the outer pattern, you must have had 30+ rounds within a half inch.

How long did that take?

I didn’t time it, but only time spent between shots was swapping magazines.

This is the same gun in the video below, the target stays in the scope every shot even while cycling the bolt. So the next shot normally comes quickly, the video is a touch slow on the third shot as I made a slight wind correction.