Explain this to me

mnhoundman

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My brush is very specific, like painting a picket fence that is currently green with blue paint. I'm talking about able bodied folks not hitting a lick at a snake and are able to do so because it is allowed and funded by those who do. Assistance and free loading are very different things.
This! Exactly, to dam many people getting hand outs! Period!!!! Can't find anyone to work around here, there getting money from somewhere. Time to cut it off, (long ago actually) , yes some need it, but to many getting it that sures hell don't?
 

GSPHUNTER

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This! Exactly, to dam many people getting hand outs! Period!!!! Can't find anyone to work around here, there getting money from somewhere. Time to cut it off, (long ago actually) , yes some need it, but to many getting it that sures hell don't?
They have taken a well intended program for the truly needy and turned it into a way of life for the lazy. And it keeps getting worst.
 

mnhoundman

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And I don't know how people are getting by with it, there's a help wanted sign on every door paying alot more than they were 2 years ago!
 

GSPHUNTER

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I am an able bodied person that makes a decent income. The other day I went into the gas station for a fountain drink and they said it was on them. Please don't hate me.
Do you come off as useless? Maybe they looked at you and thought there is a down on his luck human being.
 

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My brush is very specific, like painting a picket fence that is currently green with blue paint. I'm talking about able bodied folks not hitting a lick at a snake and are able to do so because it is allowed and funded by those who do. Assistance and free loading are very different things.
The problem is, pretty tough to set up criteria to determine who the deadbeats are from those really needing assistance. Don't disagree that people game the system. It's not just deadbeats and the poor that game systems either, btw.
 
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The problem is, pretty tough to set up criteria to determine who the deadbeats are from those really needing assistance. Don't disagree that people game the system. It's not just deadbeats and the poor that game systems either, btw.
I agree that it is difficult or nearly impossible. People game that system at all levels. It's both a system issue and a person issue. Then it becomes a chicken or the egg type conversation. I think we can all agree that there are problems.
 

GSPHUNTER

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I agree that it is difficult or nearly impossible. People game that system at all levels. It's both a system issue and a person issue. Then it becomes a chicken or the egg type conversation. I think we can all agree that there are problems.
I think, when I go to the market and someone pulls in, in a new luxury car, and I see them in line with food stamps, it's not to hard for me to make a determination something is mess up with the system. Don't they check these people out at all. Hell maybe I should apply.
 

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Not upset. Just don't understand. Students are just that, students and have limited time to work to earn an income. Seniors discounts, those folks have spent their time in the work force already. So students and seniors, I'm good with that. I'm talking about able bodied folks getting something cheaper just because they have chosen not to work. What seems to be interesting about my view??
How do you know they have "chosen not to work"? Painting with a pretty broad brush with that statement. Sure, there are some that are, but there's plenty who aren't able. Be thankful you're neither.

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M-Wig

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I spent a lot of time as a kid in a small grocery store in a somewhat poor area (rural) that shaped my thoughts on food stamps, welfare, etc. People would come in and buy food with food stamps on one purchase; then beer, cigs, lottery tickets, etc with their own money. I see the same thing now when I'm shopping.

I don't know a lot of people on food stamps now. The ones I do know of sell their cards for cash to buy what they really want, or pool them together for their lunch truck ingredients.

Amazon has done the math and this will help their numbers. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

Jbehredt

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My folks worked hard for what little we had. They were both dealt a pretty shitty hand early in life. Definitely not lazy. We got food stamps off and on depending on how busy my dad’s job was.
 
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The problem is, pretty tough to set up criteria to determine who the deadbeats are from those really needing assistance. Don't disagree that people game the system. It's not just deadbeats and the poor that game systems either, btw.
Nope it's really not...If you truly need assistance to get over a rough patch until you find another job you should have no problems with a drug testing to be able to recieve assistance...Chances are pretty good you will have to take a pre employment screening for that next job your trying to get.
 
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I learned of this a few months back and immediately called Amazon to discuss. Long story short I cancelled my Prime membership. I've mentioned this somewhere on Rokslide before. Right or wrong, agree or disagree; my real question is: how is this not price discrimination? Want equality, charge everyone the same. Think about it, what's next? Am I going to paying more for gas and groceries than mailbox check collectors in the near future??
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Not sure why everyone is jumping all over you. You bring up a good point.

It is price discrimination. BUT...its their choice.
They weigh the benefits of opening up a few more accounts that will bring revenue to losing a few accounts to people that find their pricing to be questionable AND do something about it like cancelling their account. Obviously they think this will bring higher shareholder value so they moved forward with it. Simple.

Congrats to you sticking to your moral compass. I am weak and will continue with my amazon account even though I disagree with this policy. I see more value in getting items that save me time and money and moved on.

To your second point about paying more for gas or groceries than mailbox check collectors...well...sorry to inform you but that is already happening. Not at the store but at a macro level.

You most likely are taxed at a higher level than the average "mailbox check collectors". Therefore the dollars you earn are watered down...or i guess at some level subsidizing their fuel purchases.

Part of your tax dollars are also paying for their groceries through EBT...so when you pay an hours worth of labor to purchase a bundle of groceries just remember part of that hour of labor is given to an EBT card holder to purchase their groceries.

I would prefer that every able bodied/minded individual go out and create value in this country. BUT I understand there are lazy weak people that will do the very minimal to survive. Our society champions this approach to the point of catastrophic failure at some point in the future...tick tick tick.

But remember...bringing these points up makes you a terrible person. This sort of thing is what the dirty evil Libertarians talk about all the time...now stop complaining and get back to work!
 
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