Evoke training vs MTN tough

[mad_angler]

Here is the Evoke program:

Backcountry Hunters

evokeendurance.com

The programs seem very different to me...

Evoke comes from endurance background and focusses on endurance. It also works on core and strength.
MNT tough comes from crossfit (it seems). They focus on chassis strength. It also works on endurance.

Does anyone have experience with both programs? I know that the official Evoke program is knew but the Evoke principles have been around for a while.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Here is a very informative episode from Jay at Mindful Hunter that will answer a lot of your questions.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Personally, I draw from elements of both camps.
Having what MTN Tough calls a solid chassis is super important, not only for hunting, but for capability in life and performance in any activity that you are doing.

But, a foundation of Zone 2 and a high aerobic threshold is undoubtably the metric that will offer probably the biggest performance advantage for mountain hunts.

Bonus points and a huge leg up if you have interests outside of hunting such as backcountry ski touring, mountain or road biking, nordic skiing etc. In that case you are building your foundation while at the same time enjoying life.

TLDR; Deadlifts + Squats are your strength and chassis foundation. Low and slow aerobic activities are your aerobic base. Lunges and rucking are your muscular endurance base. High intensity intervals & lifts sharpen the spear of the base you've formed.

 

[LCguy]

Everyone just totally overthinks all of this. Want to get stronger? Lift weights. Want to get better at hiking? Go hike/stairstepper/incline treadmill. Want to get better at carrying heavy stuff on your back? Carry heavy stuff on your back.

 

[pattimusprime22]

To echo things said above: For people that don't/haven't exercised, I think doing MTN Tough is better than nothing, but it is not the best/optimal workout program for hunting. High intensity cardio should be a very very small portion of your training, not the cornerstone.

Evoke Endurance has very legitimate expertise and credibility in mountain endurance sports. They coached both the male and female winners of the last UTMB. EE has trained a lot of SOF guys, including Vince Paikowski (now one of their coaches), who won the Best Ranger Competition in 2021 based on their training principles.