Equipment versus practice posts and Rifle practice/shooting

[roughnecknine0]

There has been a trend away from the traditional very low prone position to having your rifle higher and head more upright, which allows using the center of your eye rather than the upper quadrant to look through.
Give it a try and you will probably find you want to move your scope back a bit and it will be more comfortable from all positions

Interesting. I'm probably a low prone guy. Always try to get down, rifle into me, and head as far forward on the stock as I can. Any links/videos/photos on high prone?

Also, why the shift? What are the benefits?

 

[Ens Entium]

Interesting. I'm probably a low prone guy. Always try to get down, rifle into me, and head as far forward on the stock as I can. Any links/videos/photos on high prone?

Also, why the shift? What are the benefits?

Do you have an adjustable cheek piece? If so, try adjusting it without looking through a scope (preferably with no scope mounted) until you find the most comfortable position.

I found that I was mounting my scopes too low and the strain introduced by having my neck at an awkward position was not helping. I found I was much more comfortable running higher and felt more comfortable in all positions.

 

[roughnecknine0]

Do you have an adjustable cheek piece? If so, try adjusting it without looking through a scope (preferably with no scope mounted) until you find the most comfortable position.

I found that I was mounting my scopes too low and the strain introduced by having my neck at an awkward position was not helping. I found I was much more comfortable running higher and felt more comfortable in all positions.

All makes sense. I don't have an easily adjustable cheekpiece but I've built one up with 3d printed riser, foam, and vetwrap. I can add to it and give new welds a try. Thanks!

 

[Castle Rock]

Interesting. I'm probably a low prone guy. Always try to get down, rifle into me, and head as far forward on the stock as I can. Any links/videos/photos on high prone?

Also, why the shift? What are the benefits?

This is pretty good

Prone shooting

 

[fightthenoise]

All makes sense. I don't have an easily adjustable cheekpiece but I've built one up with 3d printed riser, foam, and vetwrap. I can add to it and give new welds a try. Thanks!

Wanna share that STL file?

 

[hereinaz]

There has been a trend away from the traditional very low prone position to having your rifle higher and head more upright, which allows using the center of your eye rather than the upper quadrant to look through.
Give it a try and you will probably find you want to move your scope back a bit and it will be more comfortable from all positions

In part it comes from precision rifle where you bring the rifle in close to your neck, centered on your body for optimal recoil management for spotting shots and watching trace.

To do that, the scope needs to be higher because your neck won't bend that way.

It also improves consistency in form for shooting outright.

 

[roughnecknine0]

Wanna share that STL file?

Sure! Can I do that via here or just a thingiverse link? To be clear it's not a riser assembly it's just a rail of sorts that sits atop the stock, is topped with foam, and then wrapped in vetwrap.

 

[roughnecknine0]

This is pretty good

Prone shooting

Wow this guy is awesome, too bad he only has a few videos. Seems like a great teacher and would love to see more from him.

 

[Stu]

@Formidilosus
Thoughts on the video?

 

[Dobermann]

I'm not Form, but Phil Velayo is one of the top competitive precision shooters and instructors. Without looking too hard, you'll find info about his service, training/teachers, competition performance, podcast, and his online training program.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus
Thoughts on the video?

Correct. However, issues with pain and injury can occur with rifles that have recoil.

 

[Stu]

Correct. However, issues with pain and injury can occur with recoils that have recoil.

Yeah, my skinny-a clavicle can’t handle many rounds like that

 

[woods89]

This post needs to stay close to the top. Now that hunting season is over I intend to work on this type of shooting a bunch.

I also love shooting steel, and have an old sawhorse rigged up with a 4'' gong and an 8'' gong hung from nylon straps. I can shoot 200 yds on my place. I shoot this sometimes similarly to this drill for something different.

I have become a huge believer in having a lightweight 223. It's one of the best things that has happened for my proficiency.

 

[fightthenoise]

Sure! Can I do that via here or just a thingiverse link? To be clear it's not a riser assembly it's just a rail of sorts that sits atop the stock, is topped with foam, and then wrapped in vetwrap.

Thingiverse link would be awesome if you got it. If not PM me and we’ll figure something else out.

 

[Antares]

This thread is killer. Great information here. I haven’t done much shooting since hunting season ended, but reading this thread just got me pumped and I pulled my .22 out of the safe. I’ll post up the results. Thanks Form.

 

[longbarrel]

I mostly shoot from a sitting position in the West. Brush is too high for prone.

 

[roughnecknine0]

Thingiverse link would be awesome if you got it. If not PM me and we’ll figure something else out.

@fightthenoise Here ya go. Just uploaded so it may take a few hours until the link works. Let me know of any issues.

Tikka T3x Cheek Riser by RoughneckNine0

To sit on top of a stock and be secured with wrap or tape

www.thingiverse.com

 

[Antares]

Hey @Formidilosus, what are your thoughts about the Project Appleseed targets and course of fire?

 

[Formidilosus]

From classic marksmanship perspective (and history which is more important), Appleseed is great and I think everyone should attend.

From a shooting rifles optimally in the field perspective, no. Sling use can be a great asset, it also introduces torque into the system. The offset body position required to use a sling is not neutral, and therefor makes spotting your own impacts much harder when not using a sling. Both things effect most people’s POI.

 

[Antares]

That's a very good Appleseed score. Nice!