Elk Rifle

I’m no elk expert, only killed 2 elk.
If you just want a little fatter bullet than the 6.5, I like 300 wsm or 30-06 for “normal” hunting ranges.

Hard to beat a 180 grain accubond for elk.
200 grain ELDX worked great for me too.

Leupold vx3’s have been good on rifles that I just sight in and leave.
I prefer nightforce if I’m gunna be dialing for longer range.
 
So this year I drew a once in a lifetime elk tag in New Mexico. Haven't really had any exceptional tags or guided hunts up to this point, and have mainly used a 6.5 PRC to take deer sized and below game. Nothing as big as an elk. I also have a mountain goat hunt in the pipeline that if I can't upgrade, I want this rifle to be able to serve that purpose as well.

My total budget is ~$3k or slightly more if it makes a meaningful difference. I'm thinking putting $1k towards the rifle and $2k scope so my setup would be this.

Weatherby Vanguard 7mm rem mag or **300 win mag** (maybe tikka t3x lite with brake)?
Nightforce NX8 4-32x50

My vanguard shoots awesome so I’m thinking another one. Unless I was doing a custom build I can't see the juice being worth the squeeze spending an extra 1k on the rifle. Suggestions?

EDIT: **I truly appreciate all input on the cartridge, nobody is wrong if they shoot what they’re confident in, but recommendations on scope and rifle setup would be ideal**
I feel you should just shoot the 6.5 prc . Spend the money on a variety of bullets designed for heavier game and find what your rifle likes. Then get (or handload if you do that) a bunch of it and practice a lot. Shot placement is key within your rifles limitation. I took a 270 Winchester and didn’t feel under gunned. Ballistics are pretty close to equal of the 6.5 prc. Place a bonded or mono bullet where it needs to go and it will work fine.
 
Stacked a few bulls with the 7mm. No regerts and enjoy the 7.5 pds carrying up and down the steeps. Recoil never felt it hunting. As to scopes, lifelong user of leupold and have had ballistic dots about 20 yrs out to 600yds. Can’t go wrong with either choice you noted and my 223 is for plinking🤣
 
7mm Rem Mag is an awesome cartridge. It will cover a wide range of animals with manageable recoil. If I could only have one rifle here in CO, it would be hard to beat the 7 mag. Besides, any excuse to get a new gun is a good one. I've done a lot of research on calibers in comparison to the 7 mag. I found that yes, stouter calibers beat it, though a lot of them are just marginally better. But! The price paid is often pretty substantially higher recoil. Ammo cost for some of the newer offerings can also be higher. I try to come up with the logical scope of what I need a gun to do, and shop accordingly. A 7mm Rem Mag will do anything I need a rifle to do, and do it very well.

Right now though I'm favoring a 7mm-08 with Barnes TTSX 120gr bullet hand loads. My rifle really likes this bullet and the recoil is mild. 400 yards and under this rifle will do just fine.
 
There isn't an Elk alive that can't be easily killed with a .30-06 wearing a 3-9x40 scope.

The most important factor is bullet placement and correct placement comes from practice, practice, and more practice.

I've chose to and have been lucky enough to live most of my live in elk country. I haven't elk hunted every year, but I have killed 35 elk, all were DIY hunts, and most on public land. Most of my elk were killed with .30 caliber bullets, and I only shot at one of them at over 300 yards.

I shot about a dozen of my elk with Hornady or Sierra cup and core bullets, 20 or so with 180 gr Nosler Partition bullets, and now my favorite elk rifle is my .300 Weatherby vanguard shooting 180 gr Barnes TTSX bullets. It wears a Leupold VX 3i 4.5-14x40 CDS scope.

My best elk is this 375" bull that I killed with a less than a 200 yd shot with one 180 gr Partition bullet, on public land in northern Montana a number of years ago. My rifle was a Herter's .30-06 that I had rechambered to .30 Gibbs, wearing a Redfield 3-9x40 scope.
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OP I can relate. A few years ago I picked up a 6.5 PRC as a one gun for deer and cow elk, no intention of chasing a bull. And now my group have decided to put in for Bull elk and it has me thinking about a larger cartridge. I'm certain the 140s will do their job under the circumstances that they can do their job. But if I come across an incredible bull and spend hours trying to line up that shot or get 50 or 100 yd closer, I know I will be thinking about a 180 grain bullet and the possibilities.
Currently my backup rifles are much bigger and more powerful than I need, so I have more than one reason to be looking at another rifle in this class. Plus, my rifle itself leaves a couple of minor things to be desired and who doesn't need another gun in their life?
Currently looking hard at an x-bolt in seven PRC or 7rm. That rifle lets you load long. So even as great as the round is, you can stretch it a bit further if you hand load.
As for buying skill, there's not nothing to it or everyone wouldn't be recommending you upgrade your glass.
But training in field positions is where it's at. It's not about getting better and better necessarily, although that's part of it. For me it's about knowing my rifle and bullet and limitations, and then building the hunt around those parameters. Current plan is to get some good detachable rings so that whichever rifle I grab I won't need two pieces of awesome glass.
Of course, before anyone says it, a backup gun is of no use when it's your scope that's damaged on the hunt. But you can only do what you can do.
The seven PRC is not much of a jump up, that's true. But if you didn't already own your 6.5, would you be looking to buy a 300 Win Mag? You have to find that nexus of power, shootability which is largely rifle weight, and packability which is also largely rifle weight. I'm comfortable with an 8.5 lb rifle slinging heavy 7 mm bullets, and I don't pack in for days when I hunt.
Just have to figure out what works best for you, and get out there.
 
As for the first post, if you really want something different anything in the 7mm mag class with a 145 LRX or the new 160 LRX will work wonders. Forget target bullets on elk.

Scope 18x or less. Really don't need more.
 
So this year I drew a once in a lifetime elk tag in New Mexico. Haven't really had any exceptional tags or guided hunts up to this point, and have mainly used a 6.5 PRC to take deer sized and below game. Nothing as big as an elk. I also have a mountain goat hunt in the pipeline that if I can't upgrade, I want this rifle to be able to serve that purpose as well.

My total budget is ~$3k or slightly more if it makes a meaningful difference. I'm thinking putting $1k towards the rifle and $2k scope so my setup would be this.

Weatherby Vanguard 7mm rem mag or **300 win mag** (maybe tikka t3x lite with brake)?
Nightforce NX8 4-32x50

My vanguard shoots awesome so I’m thinking another one. Unless I was doing a custom build I can't see the juice being worth the squeeze spending an extra 1k on the rifle. Suggestions?

EDIT: **I truly appreciate all input on the cartridge, nobody is wrong if they shoot what they’re confident in, but recommendations on scope and rifle setup would be ideal**
Save your money, your 6.5 PRC will kill an elk with no problem.
 
Have 2 rifles that were purpose built for elk hunting. One is a Weathermark in 300 Weatherby and the other is a Model 70 in 325 wsm. Both will shoot .75 groups with my loads, both wear Leupold glass. You can see that I believe that bigger is better. Hit an elk with everything you can. Hate to waste a OIL tag by having a elk run off.
 
Lots of great suggestions.

I'm going to say tikka, savage or bergara in 7 PRC or larger. All of those come in a ready to shoot config but also have great aftermarket support for later upgrades.

Many of these come with threaded muzzles which saves some GS money if you want a brake or a can on it.

The NF scope is a great option.

I'm a big fan of the trig ten mile series of scopes from a max of 18-30x.

In a similar price would be the Leupold Mk 5s, I know they're not popular on this site but have had good luck with mine. Even took a fall with one and didn't lose zero.
 
IMHO...

Get a 7mm RM...or get a 7mmPRC. The 7RM will outperform a 7 prc when reloaded...most of the factory 7prc will NOT meet velocity specs on the box (looking at you especially Hornady). Of course there are still factory rounds for the 7mmRM that will get the job done...just reloading gives "full potential"..:geek:

The "big" 7's are the sweet spot. A 180 gr 7mm will drop less, drift less, and have more velocity on impact than a .30 cal of equal weight.

You can build a 7mm lighter than a .30 mag because it generally will recoil less. That means it will get used more. Looking into the future...it will be nice to have a rifle you can use on every hunt if you want instead of just "the one".

Upgrading your optic will also pay benefits to reliability....Nightforce are a great place to be.

Were it my money...threaded tikka 7mmRM...nightforce of choice, mounts of choice..muzzle brake or suppressor of choice. The 9.5 twist may or may not stabilize a berger 180...only downside....but the 168 berger is pretty dang good as well....

Just my 2 cents...
 
375H&H go big or go home lol
Seriously though I like a 300wm, really prefer 30cals, 308, 30-06 etc Most any will do with the right shot placement, I prefer the 30cals just for a bit more bullet mass, But thats a personal prefrence
 
3/4 shots in the boiler room. Lost bull was a little off but still a shoulder hit and should’ve done more damage. Anyone who knows anything knows you don’t pull a single trigger at anything unless you’re certain it’s dead. I’m not, though I’m sure someone else would be and they could be correct.

I will also have to reach out and confirm what they were using. I believe both 143 ELdx which is what I typically use
Man, get the cartridge YOU are confident in and ignore the ribbing. I have a Seekins 6.5cm and a 7mag in the same rifle. I’d use either. But confidence is king in the moment of truth and it doesn’t come from folks on the internet telling you you’re wrong. (Besides, when is getting a new rifle a bad idea?)

Personally, I’d look for a former model Browning X Bolt since they just updated it. Or get the new one and a Maven scope of your liking and come in at your price range.

Congratulations on the tag. I’m jealous. Check all the boxes you can so at that moment you only have to think of the shot and not worry.

Good luck and share some photos when you get him home.
 
7 Mag or 300 Win Mag Browning X Bolt Speed or X Bolt Speed SPR - $1,175 to $1,300 range (on GunBroker) with a

Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50 $1,650 range (after the 12% discount at Sport Optics) puts you right at the $3k mark.
 
I just watched the shoot2hunt podcast #118 where the topic was the best all around western hunting cartridge (spoiler alert, it’s the 6.5 PRC). Very interesting discussion and way of looking at the issue, I recommend watching. Of particular interest was the shootablity discussion. The 6.5 PRC has on the order of 16 ftlbs of recoil vs 27 ftlbs for the 7 PRC. I expected it to be a moderate step up, not nearly double, pretty surprising.
 
I had a 28 nosler built last year throated for the 180 Berger. I like how it’s got more capability than my 7prc. I live in Alabama so a 30 is a lot of gun here hence the reason I went with the 28. I may do a 30 of some sort this year, but all because I just want another gun haha. I made sure finish weight was around 10lbs (preference for me).
 
From your statements; go with 7mm Rem Mag. Since you mention a future Mountain Goat hunt I’d be looking for lighter weight rig. Either the Vanguard (Howa) or Tikka, whichever has aftermarket carbon stock future upgrade. I just added NX8 scope to my quiver but it is heavier than others. I’m adding a Trijicon Tenmile HX too and that might be a lighter rig for hiking up a mountain.
 
6.5 is fine for elk, all the ones I have killed have been one shot each. Out to 300 yards but wouldn’t hesitate to shoot further.
 
After taking elk with 300’s (H&H & Wby), two years ago I switched to a .270Wby Mag and 130grn TTSX’s. I’ve taken one cow with it and it worked perfect. Even for a trophy bull hunt I can’t see myself needing more
 

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