Effects of Canting Your Rifle- 1000 yard Demo

[Bob Beck]

Here's a demonstration video of the effects canting your rifle can have at 1000 yards. A very common mistake I see with lots of shooters.


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[deadwolf]

Great video Bob, I was just explaining this very effect to some guys at work the other day. I'm gonna have to show them the link.

 

[Ironman8]

Is canting the rifle detrimental to accuracy at long range? You bet! Especially when you cant the rifle 20-30 degrees.

Is a bubble level absolutely a necessity for long range? Absolutely not.

Sounds more like a sales pitch than an instructional video to me.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Is canting the rifle detrimental to accuracy at long range? You bet! Especially when you cant the rifle 20-30 degrees.

Is a bubble level absolutely a necessity for long range? Absolutely not.

Sounds more like a sales pitch than an instructional video to me.

Really- so you just throw the rifle down and shoot animals at 1000 yards? Sounds like wounded animals to me!

 

[TRIPLE]

Is canting the rifle detrimental to accuracy at long range? You bet! Especially when you cant the rifle 20-30 degrees.

Is a bubble level absolutely a necessity for long range? Absolutely not.

Sounds more like a sales pitch than an instructional video to me.

This seems a bit more like a personal attack than a helpfull post. Maybe if your long range shooting is Nebraska or Kansas (super flat) I could agree with you. In real world shooting senerios it's best to minimize error. Most would be surprised how much you accidentally cant in super steep terrain with super steep angles. Couple a few degrees of cant with a mile or two wind call error in nasty country and your in for a shitty day.

 

[pyroducksx3]

Yep I'm constantly surprised how far off level I am when shooting in the mountains. I'll think I'm pretty close then check the level and see the bubble buried to one side. Would this have ruined the shot, I dunno I use a level and have since I started. I see no reason to make mistakes others have made and choose to learn from expierenced shooters. The anti cant level is a point in every discussion I hear when introducing someone to longrangehunt shooting. Was this an extreme example possibly but he is proving a point. Would less cant at 600 yards ruin the shot possibly no but it sure as hell isn't going to help. Longrange shooting is challenging and it's all about stacking the odds in your favor and removing error where you can

 

[Sam Millard]

Is canting the rifle detrimental to accuracy at long range? You bet! Especially when you cant the rifle 20-30 degrees.

Is a bubble level absolutely a necessity for long range? Absolutely not.

Sounds more like a sales pitch than an instructional video to me.

Well, I would bet most folks would see a 20-30 degree cant without a bubble, regardless of terrain. There have been plenty of times I thought my bubble was lying to me in the woods, though.

The next time you are shooting at 1000 yards, center the crosshair on the target. Cant the rifle a little and look up the vertical stadia above the target. It will lean in the same direction you are canted. If you dial it up and keep the cant, that's where the bullet is heading. Maybe at 4-500 yards a 1/4 or 1/2 MOA cant doesn't matter, but when the range is measured in 4 digits, it absolutely does! As TRIPLE mentioned, if you start stacking small wind call errors on top of that, or spin drift correction, then you're in for a bad ride.

An easy way to test this is to take a tall piece of cardboard and set it up at 100 yards. Shoot a round for a zero reference. Then run up a plumb line with the rifle canted, even just a little bit. The hits will keep striking further away from the centerline the higher you dial the turret.

 

[Ironman8]

Right...I'll leave you guys to it then.

 

[pyroducksx3]

I can tell from your post you haven't done a lot of Longrange shooting.

 

[Sam Millard]

I can tell from your post you haven't done a lot of Longrange shooting.

This post nails it...

 

[Justin Crossley]

Right...I'll leave you guys to it then.

Funny stuff

 

[Stresd]

Check this out
http://www.arld1.com/targetplottrajectory3.html

 

[5MilesBack]

Just cant a bow a few degrees and shoot at 40+ yards and see the difference. You don't find many quality bow sights without a level. At 1000 yards, a level rifle is as critical as a level bow shooting on a side hill across a drainage at 60 yards.

 

[robby denning]

Is canting the rifle detrimental to accuracy at long range? You bet! Especially when you cant the rifle 20-30 degrees.

Is a bubble level absolutely a necessity for long range? Absolutely not.

Sounds more like a sales pitch than an instructional video to me.

I'm not a long range rifle guy but when I put a Black Gold Ascent site with level on my bow, I was shocked at how much I cant my bow. It had become a natural part of my form. While sub 40 yards wasn't affected, the level did improve my accuracy at 60 and beyond.

 

[tstowater]

I caught an article the other day by David Tubb on canting. He shoots a canted rifle, but uses a level to keep the same cant and sets the scope for the cant. Not an expert by any means, but I'm guessing that this may work best on known and consistent shooting distances. I try my best to "level" the scope and rifle when shooting, but I wouldn't be surprised that I may not even be as close as I should be short of installing a level.