Luis
FNG
Maybe Montana feels the public should have the use of public land.
I went to a meeting to hear the reasons for the proposed rule changes were.
Reasons given:
NR bird dog trainers were training dogs before the season opened. On opening day the NR dog owners were joining the trainer and getting their limits because the trainer knew exactly where the birds were because he spent weeks training the new bird dogs on the birds.
Proposed Rule change:
Limit days for bird dog training and not let the NR's just come join their dogs and trainer to limit out each day on opening week.
I went looking for facts, and my observation was:
I spoke with a dog trainer from MI with a travel trailer and dog kennels training bird dogs for his clients in Eastern MT. He had 12 dogs. I drove further down the gravel road and saw more camps with dog kennels.
There are probably a couple hundred dogs being trained on wild birds in MT by NR trainers.
My personal conclusion:
The residents asking for rule changes have valid reasons.
So why cant ranchers just put their cows out with out paying?. I’m a dog guy but the trainers are making money off the public land no different than any other business. If it’s one guy running his personal dogs that’s a different story.Maybe Montana feels the public should have the use of public land.
I agree. You make a valid point for charging fees to professional dog trainers utilizing public land for a commercial business. If the comment period is still open, I will add that.So why cant ranchers just put their cows out with out paying?. I’m a dog guy but the trainers are making money off the public land no different than any other business. If it’s one guy running his personal dogs that’s a different story.
I think thats what they did down by nashville on the retriever grounds so you just dont have a bunch of pet dogs out running around causing trouble. I know the retriever club down there does all the grounds keeping and upkeep of the ponds.Iowa shuts down dog access to public ground between March 15- mid July or somthing close to that. Except for designated dog training areas. Several local groups actually funded the training area developments which includes grounds keeping and creating ponds for waterworks. It's pretty slick.
Folks started to treat it like a dog park during covid and think they're trying to work something out to say you need a valid hunting license to use it, currently you only need the license if your working birds or furred game.
It's pretty bad around here. I hate to sound like that guy but I don't bring my dogs to WMAs to "meet" your 2 Dalmatians. I had a small group of karens in the middle of my fav rabbit spot this week yapping it up. Not a shred or orange between them.I think thats what they did down by nashville on the retriever grounds so you just dont have a bunch of pet dogs out running around causing trouble. I know the retriever club down there does all the grounds keeping and upkeep of the ponds.
On public ground.I wonder what kills more birds. Broods and hens getting kicked of nests in the spring or the nr hunting in the fall. It makes sense the no one here can run on wild birds from april 1- august 31.
Yep. That’s why a bunch of guys come here in the summer and train on the rezOn public ground.
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