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Please don't spread false/misleading/blanket statement type information as it helps no one. Thanks
Apparently when you type long replies, they time out….. so Ill retype mine here.
Dear Black Ovis,
Thanks for agreeing to my pro list. But telling me that Im making false/blanket/misleading statements then doing exactly that yourself, is hypocritical. Ive answered all your questions and in many cases rebutted your comments on my original statements. Please take the time to read them as I did yours.
Expensive to re-sole : Explained
Thank you for providing actual pricing. But saying that $100 to re-sole these boots is not expensive seems like your telling me and everyone else what money is worth to us. Don't make blanket statements or assume you know my financial position. Also I am basing ALL of my statements on what these boots did for ME. I never said these statements are for EVERYONE. Relaying your personal experience to better supply data to the collective audience is how forums work. Welcome.
Does your price quoted include shipping? If it does, $100 for a $360 boot (no counting tax) to be resoled is similar in ratio to that of other companies, maybe a little less, maybe more, but close to the normal cost to do this. But how long does Crispi guarantee these boots both the boot itself and the sole, will last? Id love to know that, because my opinion is based on how long these will last me and the cost of ownership to ME. If crispi wants to guarantee that If I burn out these in a year, that they will at no cost to me replace, then I will change my mind on cost of ownership and Ill enjoy my new boots that will last me a lifetime and at a bargain of only $360. When you provide that data, maybe then we can compare cost of ownership. Also my specific situation is not the same as everyone else, so please compare only my situation otherwise your guilty of that blanket and misleading statement thing…..
Heavy:
Apples to Apples. And again, for ME this boot is heavy considering the features. The features is what Crispi felt was best for sales and this boot. Does that mean that ALL users will fall in love with every feature and require them on all boots in the future? No. What that means is that a guy like me might enjoy the super traction outsole but the abss system did nothing to outweigh the weight for me. Again FOR ME. So I compare what this cost me to buy, and to get to work for me, and I look at the other boots at that dollar amount…. For ME its Heavy. Id prefer different features but if Crispi made the boot for me its a custom and thats not what we are discussing here. How does this boot compare to any other boot spec for spec when not all boots have the same features. So again, for ME this boot and its features made a recipe of a heavy boot…..
Hot:
You personally wont call it hot, but I did and so your saying thats a blanket false statement. So in this case your saying ALL people must agree with you. Your body is the barometer in which we will measure all things. Its funny that you literally restated what I did in post #6, but at like its you making the point not me and that I am in disagreement with you. I agree it breathes better than leather, so does a pair of tennis shoes. Again, my post talks about this boot being HOT for MY situation despite the cordura and build design.
Sizing:
Does Crispi make boots in the 14 wide, 15, 15 wide, etc? Yes or NO? I called them and if they did but no longer do, and you have a pair, let me know! Compare that to companies like Rocky and Kenetrek and even Keen that do offer extended sizes. Again, not saying this is a negative, merely a consideration for those with that need.
Factory Insoles Are Junk:
Are you agreeing with me? And also if you are, $420 for a set of Idaho’s with insoles puts them in a class of +$400 boots that may change how some people look at them for the better or worse. What other cordura boots run $420 with Superfeet and how do they stack up to this boot? Thats the question the buyer will need to research. For ME, this boot had promise but fell short based on my very specific needs and use. But last time I checked, footwear is very specific and most people cant be lumped in to one big bucket.
Make your feet Drip:
You agree with me in this post, then say I should call Crispi if I disagree? You must of had a long day at work. These made my feet drip sweat as do most gore lined boots during hot summer temps. So Ill just assume your misreading this and move on.
Stretch, Good/Bad:
You agree with me, and want clarification. But then you take my double edge point and explain exactly what that means and then ask what I mean by it? Again, long day at work right? For the price these run with insoles, your darn close to custom boots. Are you saying that at your company you would suggest someone pay $400+ for boots that wont ever fit right? Also saying “most users” puts you in the boat of blanket statements. Last time I spoke with a shoe company or a shoe sales man, they always say buy insoles and almost everyone I know feels thats a good statement. Is that wrong? Are the factory soles good enough and people who think otherwise are wrong? if not, then are those of us who see Kenetreks, and Russel mocs running $400+ but custom or close to it crazy? Should we get a built for one size person boot and just deal with it? I haven’t seen that advice from a shoe shop before….
Now last time I checked customer service for Black Ovis was highly rated, but you jumping on this forum attacking a single person who made statements about their experience, saying Im false or blanket then doing the same thing yourself and not recognizing my post as simply a testimonial is BS. You use testimonials to sell your products but apparently you dont like it when they are about brands that you may prefer or maybe get more money to push?
Your customer service may be great but your tact is lacking. If you would like to continue this, PM me and we can have a civil debate. Maybe, that would even help you better understand my position and give you the ability to earn a customer by providing me the elusive perfect boot that has been hard to find. Maybe you wont, but at the very least, take a long look at what was written and consider your responses and how you think a company that sells boots should actually respond to questions like this……
