Do Animal Rights Groups Purchase Big Game Tags?

[TheTone]

Here is a quote from their buffalo field campaign manager when the hunt had them riled up:

"We also have some great news: Patagonia has agreed to pay the $75 fee for every buffalo kill permit secured by a BFC supporter that isn't used. THANK YOU PATAGONIA for always coming through for the buffalo! Applications must be turned in to Fish, Widllife and Parks no later than 5:00 pm MST on January 3, 2005. The drawing takes place on January 7, 2005, and if your name is drawn, you will receive a phone call from FWP. Stay in touch with us! For FWP's information on the canned hunt visit "

And yet I’m unaware of BFC having any issues with the tribal killing of bison around the park

 

[orionthehunter1]

It's probably not politically correct or maybe its racist if they question tribal practices

 

[Jbehredt]

It's probably not politically correct or maybe its racist if they question tribal practices

Oh yeah, absolutely. On the liberal hierarchy of recreational outrage discrimination against indigenous peoples trumps animal rights all day. Hell, use of the word “trump” is like 11th on the list so there I go offending more libs.

 

[EastHumboldt]

It’s kind of like a gay guy being married to a really hot girl. Not your problem none of your business nothing you can do about it.

anybody can get a hunter safety card. Even if they don’t hunt. Then if they sign some document saying they’re going to Hunt, they can just wander around in the woods with an unloaded rifle. You can not stop this.

 

[bozeman]

Has anyone on this thread been denied a tag they applied for due to it being purchased by an animal rights group?

 

[orionthehunter1]

There are some states you would never know like New Mexico. Does them applying affect draw odds and point creep? Who knows. It probably doesn't affect much but without hard data its just a guessing game. More than likely it is just a few over zealous ones that actually go through with any applications or purchases.

 

[Mike Islander]

One tag that I'm aware of not a bunch.

I couldn't care less if they draw tags and don't hunt them. They pay their money, they take the time to apply, let them. Game and Fish agencies make quota decisions knowing that some tags will be hunted, some will be hunted a few days, and some will not be hunted at all.

Wildlife belongs to all citizens, not just those that hunt.

Its not different than someone drawing a tag, getting a new job, moving, having a family emergency, etc. and not hunting it.

Hunters need to get out of the mindset that every tag they draw needs to attached to a dead animal...and also how to mind their own business.

Couldn't disagree more. Buying tags expressly for the purpose of denying a citizen the opportunity to hunt is bad behavior and should be illegal.

It is straight up hunter harassment. The hunter still has to put in the work to "kill an animal". Tag harvesting = illegally (or at the very least assholishly) denying hunters' rights.

The proposed legal changes won't stop it, but it will relegate assholes that do that to have to do it in shadows, like the rats that they are.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Not trying to start a pissing match, but do you have anything to back that up?

If true, I’d love to read about it and share it with some friends.

It’s pretty easy to google.

“Lisa Pike. Director of Patagonia’s environmental programs, said they will reimburse the cost of the bison license-for anyone who is awarded tag but doesn’t want to use it”.

Patagonia’s support of Wildlife Defense league is well documented.

All this is already on Rokslide.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Buzz your wrong there was more then one anti on the lottery list for grizzly tags.

It doesn’t matter because by design it didn’t matter each tag had a designated time frame and more tags would allocate until quota was met.

the issue is he is justifying the ideology to further limit opportunity.

some of the stuff I read on hunting forums is crazy. The anti hunting solidarity is crazy.

 

[5MilesBack]

I've bought all of my tags online, I've never had to enter any hunters safety info. Going down to the office to have your hunter safety attached to your license info is so that you don't have to carry your card around with you in the woods.

I don't know how you're able to apply without having a valid hunter safety card listed in your account......unless you're old enough to escape that requirement (born before Jan 1, 1949).

Right in the Big Game regs, page 6......."A hunter education card is required to apply for or buy a hunting license".

 

[jmez]

I spent 3 hours in a Wal Mart in Glenwood Springs once because one in our party didn't read the regs and bring a hunter safety card along. They wouldn't sell him the license. His wife couldn't find his card. It was a weekend and no one available in NE office to get the number.

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[BuzzH]

Couldn't disagree more. Buying tags expressly for the purpose of denying a citizen the opportunity to hunt is bad behavior and should be illegal.

It is straight up hunter harassment. The hunter still has to put in the work to "kill an animal". Tag harvesting = illegally (or at the very least assholishly) denying hunters' rights.

The proposed legal changes won't stop it, but it will relegate assholes that do that to have to do it in shadows, like the rats that they are.

Luckily you live in a place where its OK not to agree on issues like this.

Its also nice we live in a place that recognizes that wildlife is held in trust for ALL citizens, not just those that want to run hooks and bullets through them.

I don't understand your "logic" on this being a form of hunter harassment, its not at all.

I also don't agree with a law that inhibits a legal applicant from applying for any tag they want.

 

[ODB]

Hey Buzz here is one of their campaigns shoot them with a camera no a gun and their plan to apply for all the tags.

Jane Goodall and Other Activists Are Buying Up Grizzly Hunt Licenses So Bear Hunters Won’t Get Them

Famed primatologist and environmentalist Jane Goodall is joining activists in protesting the hunting of grizzly bears in Wyoming. Anti-hunting advocates are buying tickets to the state-wide lottery, where randomly chosen applicants will receive a license to kill one grizzly bear - with a total...

ladyfreethinker.org

Not many people know it but Jane Goodall used to date a professional hunter in Africa. That’s a fact.

times have changed, but she didn’t seem to mind hunting at the time.

 

[ODB]

Luckily you live in a place where its OK not to agree on issues like this.

Its also nice we live in a place that recognizes that wildlife is held in trust for ALL citizens, not just those that want to run hooks and bullets through them.

I don't understand your "logic" on this being a form of hunter harassment, its not at all.

I also don't agree with a law that inhibits a legal applicant from applying for any tag they want.

It’s not hunter harassment. It’s forwarding an agenda. Which is why it is ridiculous for hunters to merely “mind their own business.”

if hunters simply mind their own business and do not actively work against those trying to stop hunting, we only allow their efforts to proceed uninterrupted. And when that happens we will get on forums like this and say, “I wish we would have done something to stop it.”

 

[robby denning]

Its not different than someone drawing a tag, getting a new job, moving, having a family emergency, etc. and not hunting it.

BuzzH my man, I have to disagree on that point (But ain't that what forums are for?)

Intent would be the difference.

 

[BuzzH]

It’s not hunter harassment. It’s forwarding an agenda. Which is why it is ridiculous for hunters to merely “mind their own business.”

if hunters simply mind their own business and do not actively work against those trying to stop hunting, we only allow their efforts to proceed uninterrupted. And when that happens we will get on forums like this and say, “I wish we would have done something to stop it.”

You have a point, but there are wayyyy bigger concerns than a few hippies applying for a grizzly or bison tag.

 

[BAKPAKR]

Has anyone on this thread been denied a tag they applied for due to it being purchased by an animal rights group?

I bet Thomas D. Manglesen drew “my” grizzly tag.

 

[tdhanses]

You have a point, but there are wayyyy bigger concerns than a few hippies applying for a grizzly or bison tag.

Yeah like WY trying to reduce NR limited tags by 50%, way bigger threat to the majority in this thread or forum then anti hunters getting a few tags.

 

[BuzzH]

Yeah like WY trying to reduce NR limited tags by 50%, way bigger threat to the majority in this thread or forum then anti hunters getting a few tags.

Its all but a done deal for the big 5...no threat about it and way past due.

If NR hunters are so concerned about tag allocations, start working to improve habitat, migration corridors, funding over-passes, fencing projects, etc. etc.

Build a bigger pie and you get a larger slice.

 

[MuleyFever]

I have to enter my hunter education number every time I apply in CO. I makes me mad that they just cannot store that info.

As far as anti-hunters applying for tags, it is their right. Hunters do not own the wildlife. If it actually affects numbers tag allocations will adapt.