Do Animal Rights Groups Purchase Big Game Tags?

[BuzzH]

Ok then post the facts?

Hire a secretary...I'm busy.

I don't work for free and you couldn't afford my hourly rate anyway.

 

[tdhanses]

Hire a secretary...I'm busy.

I don't work for free and you couldn't afford my hourly rate anyway.

Busy, telling the task force half truths, thought this was your thing, comparing WY to all other western states or do you just cherry pick

From what I can see I wouldn’t get my money’s worth Everything would be a deflection.

Also if so busy why are you even on forums

Go spend a week at the Brush Creek Ranch, it‘ll all be better after and you’ll feel better spinning your narrative of how residents get screwed in WY.

 

[Get-n-birdy]

Like was already mentioned it's not uncommon in Minnesota for elk, wolf and bear tags.

When the desired effect is to take tags out of the pool so those tags are not hunted and is completely intentional that those tags are taken away from willing participants for what they are intended, that is significantly different than someone who has every intention of hunting with the tag but can't. If there's 10 tags and all go to non hunters, it undermines any need for the tags in the first place and sets a sketchy precedence for future wildlife management and tag allocation. Especially with specific species that many don't want managed at all. If it got to the point where a substantial amount of tags were awarded to non hunters, what would be the point of anything in regards to the whole process of collecting data to set seasons or hunting in general? Don't want a vetting process added to an already constipated system, but if it gets to a point where it is a problem, it'd be great to have a way to address it and find a way around it. What that is, who knows?

 

[Billy Goat]

Lots of people buy tags that don’t hunt. But that all goes into the draw odds and how many license they sell? It’s based on success rates right.

It depends, most hunts it gets factored in. Not on a quota hunt. Most of the success rates are iffy too. It's just surveys. I haven't understood why there's no actual check in so they can know the true numbers. I assume they feel that statistically it's pretty accurate, but the quota tags are the ones that you actually need to report, and the take is capped.


I wouldn't say lots of people buy tags that don't hunt. There's a few that might have planned on hunting, then don't actually get to go, but the vast majority of tags sold people are intending to use them.


Buying tags is only going to be a short term fix, unless in surveys they report a kill with every tag and skew the numbers. Otherwise tag allotments will be adjusted to take the number of animals that has been determined to remove.

 

[Njscholz6]

It depends, most hunts it gets factored in. Not on a quota hunt. Most of the success rates are iffy too. It's just surveys. I haven't understood why there's no actual check in so they can know the true numbers. I assume they feel that statistically it's pretty accurate, but the quota tags are the ones that you actually need to report, and the take is capped.


I wouldn't say lots of people buy tags that don't hunt. There's a few that might have planned on hunting, then don't actually get to go, but the vast majority of tags sold people are intending to use them.


Buying tags is only going to be a short term fix, unless in surveys they report a kill with every tag and skew the numbers. Otherwise tag allotments will be adjusted to take the number of animals that has been determined to remove.

Frustrating how some, even if not many, want to get in the way of our lives, heritage, and tradition. Bunch of babies crying that they should be able to live however they want while stifling others.

 

[Billy Goat]

Frustrating how some, even if not many, want to get in the way of our lives, heritage, and tradition. Bunch of babies crying that they should be able to live however they want while stifling others.

Thing is, I don't feel as bad about them actually spending the money on it. It's way better than just bitching and not putting your money where your mouth is.


If they want to spend the money, so be it. The president pardons a turkey every year. It's the most reforking stupid thing I have ever seen, but it's the idea I guess. Doesn't hurt me, anyone can buy my livestock, I don't care what they do with it once it leaves here. Eat it, save it, have sex with it, I don't care.


If they decide that buying tags saves animals, well that means they are actually spending money on conservation. The tag allotments will be adjusted to make up for it, or they can forge documents when they falsely report kills.


I'm really indifferent on it, yes in the short term they are taking opportunity away. So is youtube and all the social media stuff. Used to be you had to research this stuff, come up with a plan. Let them get a tag, then on the survey when asked when they hunted and what period let them scramble to figure out what to say.

I think it will get sorted out.

 

[CorbLand]

Doesn't hurt me, anyone can buy my livestock, I don't care what they do with it once it leaves here. Eat it, save it, have sex with it, I don't care.

I am all for live and let live but if someone told me that was their intent before buying it, I would probably look for another buyer.

 

[Billy Goat]

I am all for live and let live but if someone told me that was their intent before buying it, I would probably look for another buyer.

There's worse things than being a sex toy.

 

[camping1601]

Heck we have hunters buying Doe tags to protect them.

 

[Rob5589]

Couple years ago I was at a Sportsman's warehouse to buy duck stamps and they were completely out before the season opened. The girl told me two older guys came in and asked to buy every stamp they had. She said it was more common than you'd think.

 

[jmez]

You can buy a duck stamp online, print off a temporary that is good for 3 weeks until your actual stamp arrives in the mail. Buying all the stamps is a futile effort.

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[Rob5589]

A hunters safety course isn't stopping anyone. During the peak of covid there were 100% online course for cheap.

 

[Rob5589]

You can buy a duck stamp online, print off a temporary that is good for 3 weeks until your actual stamp arrives in the mail. Buying all the stamps is a futile effort.

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True. I should have specified the fed stamp.

 

[isItFallYet]

A hunters safety course isn't stopping anyone. During the peak of covid there were 100% online course for cheap.

Free online here

 

[Donjuan]

Couple years ago I was at a Sportsman's warehouse to buy duck stamps and they were completely out before the season opened. The girl told me two older guys came in and asked to buy every stamp they had. She said it was more common than you'd think.

Dumb question...or inquisitive idiot here.
Did they have the intention of blocking duck hunters or was it with conservation in mind? There was some company running a promo where they would buy extra stamps if some criteria was met (purchase certain ammo..idr) and I remember a campaign to get duck hunters to buy 2 stamps

 

[jmez]

True. I should have specified the fed stamp.

That is the federal stamp.

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[Rob5589]

That is the federal stamp.

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Interesting. Wasn't aware you could get the fed stamp online through the fish and game. Good to know.

 

[jmez]

I wasn't either until this year.

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[realunlucky]

Couple years ago I was at a Sportsman's warehouse to buy duck stamps and they were completely out before the season opened. The girl told me two older guys came in and asked to buy every stamp they had. She said it was more common than you'd think.

Lots of people that don't hunt collect duck stamps

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[Billy Goat]

Federal stamps are carried thru the post office, any other place carrying them isn't going to be an agent and will need to purchase them upfront. They are only going to have so many.


I find it hard to believe it was an effort to stop hunting, rather collectors or someone purchasing for friends. They might have wanted a dozen, all that was left was 8. They then said well give me all you got.