Didn’t Receive the Vaccine Today

[Deadfall]

The grand irony is that masks and vaccines are the most direct way to get back toward where we were prior to COVID and regain what we can of what has been lost. And yet the very people who claim to be the greatest supporters of all that - true patriots- seem to be the very people that work the hardest at coming up with excuses as to why not.

The grand irony is that people still believe government has our best interest in mind.
How come doctors not falling in line are being censured? All the medical folks who are in favor of the mask/vaccine stuff....where is their information coming from?
There are enemies both foreign AND domestic. They wear suits and ties and work in congress...are financed by lobbyists and billionaires. Not theory, fact...

 

[Deadfall]

UK going to ban flights due to new strain...lmao...put that in your syringe and smoke it....gahaaaahaaa

 

[RyanT26]

Because the vaccine will only protect you from getting ill and then ending up hospitalized. But it's possible that you could still carry the virus and be contagious to others. So those who get the vaccine should still be wearing masks and practicing physical distancing.

If this is the case, there is zero reason to get a rushed to market vaccine that has little to none info on long term effects.

 

[Broomd]

If this is the case, there is zero reason to get a rushed to market vaccine that has little to none info on long term effects.

Um....I think you missed the point, friend. For those old and compromised folks, this vaccine is likely a Godsend.
Until more details come out and reveal that this new 'strain' is impervious to a vaccine, I'd hestate to comment. My understanding is the a vaccine covers those varaitions to a large degree.
Time will tell.

 

[MattB]

So if I’m vaccinated, then why do I need to wear a mask or be subject to quarantine restrictions??? If the vaccine works, then I’d be vaccinated and no longer able to catch or spread covid.

The vaccine stops people infected with the virus from getting COVID-19 (the disease caused by the virus). It has not yet been determined whether the vaccinated can contract or transmit the disease. It sounds like you really don't understand how this works, which is funny considering you have such a firm opinion on the topic.

 

[Scoot]

Because the vaccine will only protect you from getting ill and then ending up hospitalized. But it's possible that you could still carry the virus and be contagious to others. So those who get the vaccine should still be wearing masks and practicing physical distancing.

I think that's speculation (bit by you but by the medical/ scientific community) and not known with certainty right now, correct?

 

[MattB]

Please cite my "conspiracy theories". Also when was I challenged and refused to list my source? As to not being willing to help and not offering solutions that's false as well. I believe these situations are best left to the people to take responsibility and decide for themselves what they choose to do.

OK

NDGuy said:
Historically vaccines do not cause long term side effects. Hence the piles upon piles of evidence suggesting as such.

If people are that worried wait for a different vaccine method from Oxford, Sinovac, or J&J and not one using MRNA technology.

You: I mean are we open to other sources with piles of evidence that contradict your point of view? * Cut off edit starts here. Or are we only going to look at a certain set of statistics?


NDGuy: What “piles” of evidence do you know of showing the dangers of vaccines? And I mean those that outweigh the benefits of getting vaccinations? Not a .0001% chance of something happening.

Which peer reviewed scientific journals are you referring to? Please link them, we’ll wait.

You: [crickets]

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No sources, no piles of evidence. Why? Most likely because they don't exist.

 

[Opah]

 

[Riplip]

I think that's speculation (bit by you but by the medical/ scientific community) and not known with certainty right now, correct?

Seriously, the whole thread is speculation. My information came from the CDC website, and yes can it certainly be classified as speculation, but certainly more accurate than getting information from a hunting blog or many other sources available to us right now.

 

[fwafwow]

Hey where are the follow ups from the guys that got the vaccination ?
Unable to focus and write, In Bed with a 102 + fever, Fingers and hands not quite working right ?
Inquiring Minds want to know !

Redirecting this thread back to the OP’s post is not permitted! But technically this is the thread for not having received it.

 

[Wvroach]

OK



You: I mean are we open to other sources with piles of evidence that contradict your point of view? * Cut off edit starts here. Or are we only going to look at a certain set of statistics?


NDGuy: What “piles” of evidence do you know of showing the dangers of vaccines? And I mean those that outweigh the benefits of getting vaccinations? Not a .0001% chance of something happening.

Which peer reviewed scientific journals are you referring to? Please link them, we’ll wait.

You: [crickets]

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No sources, no piles of evidence. Why? Most likely because they don't exist.

So I'll refer back to my previous posting about majority opinion meaning absolutely nothing to me. I will think for myself instead of allowing the "experts" to decide for me. Do you not find it odd that all other evidence to the contrary is throttled and hidden by big tech and government?

I'll choose not to inject aluminum, formaldehyde, and small strains of rna or virons into my body willingly. Many side effects of vaccines are chocked off to something else down the line that do not show up immediately and I find it hard to believe that one made in such haste could possibly be "safe" especially with meddling by a government that perpetuates population control and funds infanticide. Oh which they use the preborn for testing material for your precious vaccines....

This was my actual reply if you would have looked.

If you would like specific instances here you go, albeit I'm just gonna list a few unless you would like more and we can go to that I'd rather be looking at bear hunting information right now.

Trying to debate with you endlessly when you just want to dig in and automatically assume I'm a conspiracy theorist with no care for my country because I won't comply with govt imposed mandates will get neither of us anywhere.

We have the dengue fever vaccination which caused a more severe form of the disease.

The measles vaccine again causing a more severe form of the disease.

Swine flu vaccine causing guilliane bare syndrome.

H1n1 vaccine albeit rare but causing narcolepsy

The polio vaccine with live polio sent out causing over 100 paralyzed patients and quite a few dead.

Then we have MMR with autism

And the list can go on but neither of us are gonna change our mind it seems.

At the end of the day as I originally said I don't care if you get the vaccine. I will not be partaking though. Do what you think is best.

 

[Eltigreblanco]

This was my actual reply if you would have looked.

If you would like specific instances here you go, albeit I'm just gonna list a few unless you would like more and we can go to that I'd rather be looking at bear hunting information right now.

Trying to debate with you endlessly when you just want to dig in and automatically assume I'm a conspiracy theorist with no care for my country because I won't comply with govt imposed mandates will get neither of us anywhere.

We have the dengue fever vaccination which caused a more severe form of the disease.

The measles vaccine again causing a more severe form of the disease.

Swine flu vaccine causing guilliane bare syndrome.

H1n1 vaccine albeit rare but causing narcolepsy

The polio vaccine with live polio sent out causing over 100 paralyzed patients and quite a few dead.

Then we have MMR with autism

And the list can go on but neither of us are gonna change our mind it seems.

At the end of the day as I originally said I don't care if you get the vaccine. I will not be partaking though. Do what you think is best.

My wife is a school physiologist, and autism specialist. There is no link between vaccinations and autism.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

The vaccine stops people infected with the virus from getting COVID-19 (the disease caused by the virus). It has not yet been determined whether the vaccinated can contract or transmit the disease. It sounds like you really don't understand how this works, which is funny considering you have such a firm opinion on the topic.

Funny you accuse me of having a firm opinion. I have not spoke in a condescending manner to anybody in this thread, you can’t say that though about yourself.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

So as it stands:

-there is a vaccine that we will be shamed or forced into taking even though it dosent allow us to return to normal life.

-right when we were starting to hear some good news (vaccines) there’s an even worse strain now. Lockdowns in England, I’m guessing we can expect to lock down even harder or longer here in North America in the next few weeks.

-and the new surgeon general is now saying that we shouldn’t expect to all be immunized and starting to return to normal by March like they have been saying for weeks, now it’s late summer mid fall that we can expect anything to be different.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

UK going to ban flights due to new strain...lmao...put that in your syringe and smoke it....gahaaaahaaa

We seem to be a few weeks behind what happens overseas. Let’s see if that happens here. It will be hilarious when it happens in a few weeks and Christmas travelers can’t get home.

 

[Wvroach]

My wife is a school physiologist, and autism specialist. There is no link between vaccinations and autism.

This is a argument of authority that has no value. Again that would be like me saying that a adit is safe to go in as the supervisor over my site and another Miner saying it isn't and me telling them to go in anyways. Being in a position of authority doesn't always mean your right, It is a tactic used to silence opposing views nothing more.

 

[Eltigreblanco]

This is a argument of authority that has no value. Again that would be like me saying that a adit is safe to go in as the supervisor over my site and another Miner saying it isn't and me telling them to go in anyways. Being in a position of authority doesn't always mean your right, It is a tactic used to silence opposing views nothing more.

I would say this is an argument of science, which has proven that vaccines do not cause autism.

 

[Glory]

Being a white male in my 40s who is in good shape and self employed, I am pretty much at the very back of the line with this thing from what I am reading. And that is fine.

That being said, once medical folks, old folks, and teachers have had the option to take it, everything needs to be opened up, including schools.

 

[Glory]

I would say this is an argument of science, which has proven that vaccines do not cause autism.

Until someone does a study that proves they do cause autism. It’s a real moving target.

 

[DroptineDC18]

My wife is a school physiologist, and autism specialist. There is no link between vaccinations and autism.

What is a school physiologist and what is the authority on vaccines?