Didn’t Receive the Vaccine Today

[Billinsd]

Ill take it if I can stop wearing a mask and be exempt from quarantine restrictions. That’s not how it’s seeming to go so far though.

I'm afraid you are right.

 

[Rob5589]

Ill take it if I can stop wearing a mask and be exempt from quarantine restrictions. That’s not how it’s seeming to go so far though.

We have been explicitly told that post vaccine there are no changes in the foreseeable future regarding PPE. I seriously doubt there will be any relaxation of the current mandates until there is a significant number of the population vaccinated.

 

[Beaveralum]

This is the truth and half the site can’t stand to face it.

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This whole vaccine issue is just crazy to me. If you feel that the vaccine is safe then take it, great for you all that believe you are safer for it.

The anti-vax people on this site expressing the opinion that the vaccine is equivalent to government over-reach are no different than the suburban LA moms claiming the measles vaccine will cause their kale-fed toddler to be autistic. Change my mind.

I could tell a personal story about my kid with autism and the MMR vaccine, but it’s way to long to type and there is a good chance no one else cares.

The fact is no matter what I or anyone else says your mind and the mind of a lot of other people won’t chance, it’s just human nature to dig in your heels to your belief system. It’s not right or wrong, it’s just your reality and the way you and many others view the world.

Here is some light reading, complete with sources if you are so inclined -

Vaccines and Autism: A Very Real Connection

🖨️ Print post I began my journey into the vaccine-awareness community twelve years ago. Unlike so many of my colleagues in this fight, I am a filmmaker turned […]

www.westonaprice.org

 

[thinhorn_AK]

We have been explicitly told that post vaccine there are no changes in the foreseeable future regarding PPE. I seriously doubt there will be any relaxation of the current mandates until there is a significant number of the population vaccinated.

So then why line up for an in tested vaccine when taking it dosent even allow you to return to some form of normalcy??? It’s ******* infuriating.

 

[Rob5589]

So then why line up for an in tested vaccine when taking it dosent even allow you to return to some form of normalcy??? It’s ******* infuriating.

I agree, as do most of our employees. I'd likely pass if I wasn't in healthcare.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I agree, as do most of our employees. I'd likely pass if I wasn't in healthcare.

It’s just stupid. Things have been locked down for like 9 months now. Now that there’s a vaccine available that’s not even good enough to ease up on restrictions??? If a vaccine isn’t good enough then what is???

 

[Rob5589]

It’s just stupid. Things have been locked down for like 9 months now. Now that there’s a vaccine available that’s not even good enough to ease up on restrictions??? If a vaccine isn’t good enough then what is???

The irony is, if restrictions loosened up for those vaccinated, people would line up for miles to get it. Not everyone but a lot.

 

[MattB]

We have been explicitly told that post vaccine there are no changes in the foreseeable future regarding PPE. I seriously doubt there will be any relaxation of the current mandates until there is a significant number of the population vaccinated.

I cannot speak to all states, but here in CA we have some criteria which drive restrictions. There are also controls around relaxation of those restrictions. Based on my understanding, it has nothing to do with % vaccinated but there are metrics which should improve as a result of vaccination at scale. (e.g. % of ICU beds available, positivity rate).

 

[DoubleDown]

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[MattB]

It’s just stupid. Things have been locked down for like 9 months now. Now that there’s a vaccine available that’s not even good enough to ease up on restrictions??? If a vaccine isn’t good enough then what is???

You do realize that people actually have to take the vaccine at scale for it to have the intended affect? The mere existence of a vaccine doesn't solve the problem.

As shocking as it may be to you, there are people who can be part of the solution who won't take the vaccine because it doesn't give them the immediate gratification they desire.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

You do realize that people actually have to take the vaccine at scale for it to have the intended affect? The mere existence of a vaccine doesn't solve the problem.

As shocking as it may be to you, there are people who can be part of the solution who won't take the vaccine because it doesn't give them the immediate gratification they desire.

So if I’m vaccinated, then why do I need to wear a mask or be subject to quarantine restrictions??? If the vaccine works, then I’d be vaccinated and no longer able to catch or spread covid.

 

[bcv]

We are at a breaking point with the government overreach that has destroyed peoples businesses that they have worked for their entire life over the seasonal flu w fancy name.

 

[Wvroach]

That's all there was, but please further explain. You blathered on lamenting the loss of people's livelihoods and personal freedoms due to COVID-relates regulation, but offer no solutions and express no willingness to be part of the solution.

What I have seen from you on this topic is is no vaccine, conspiracy theories with no citations when challenged, and a refusal to listen to expert consensus because you form your own opinions (as an immunologist, no doubt).

Please cite my "conspiracy theories". Also when was I challenged and refused to list my source? As to not being willing to help and not offering solutions that's false as well. I believe these situations are best left to the people to take responsibility and decide for themselves what they choose to do.

The government is horrible at everything they do and do not have the peoples best interest at hearts but only what lines their pockets or suits their needs. You nor anyone else have any right to decide who is allowed to work and who isn't and any official that does so is incompetent to be in office. If you need more clarification on any particular thing let me know. Vague comments calling someone a conspiracy theorist or belittling there ideas just show how closed minded you are and how far your heels are dug in the dirt by blindly following czar.

You will never hear an argument from authority out of me I am not a "immunologist". Even a "uneducated" former sailor, leo, that decided he wanted to go home and work in the mines instead of be caught up in the rest of the hustle of the world and wants to be left alone can see that our Govt is not on our side. I do not care if you get the vaccine as for my family and myself, we will not be partaking. No amount of scare tactics or fear mongering will change my mind about government overreach. I'll take death with freedom any day over living on my knees.

 

[timekiller13]

I work in a busy ER as nurse, in an area that is getting slammed with COVID right now.

I passed on taking the vaccine. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I just don't feel like that I need this vaccine, nor do I feel like it has been properly tested. Historically, vaccines have proven to be safe and effective. There are the few that had serious issues. I will give the COVID vaccine a few years, at least, before I take it.

Now, if I were over 50 and had health issues, I would take it.

 

[brettdunn7]

Exactly! Even though multiple vaccines have been rolling out, no plan or steps of a plan has been laid out. There has only been talk of further restrictive mandates and executive orders.

I said this in another thread, but it would make the most sense to not vaccinate the immune and make more efficient use of what vaccines are available by using on those who never had the virus or didn't develop antibodies. Presumably the highest percentage of immune people would be healthcare and "frontline workers" since they were the most effected group. So the odds are a high percentage of what vaccines are being administered right now are going into people who are already immune....so they are wasted.

I predict once nearly all folks have been vaccinated, there will still be a few more months of restrictions "to make sure we are safe". I also would bet that the answer for any pushback in that will be something a long the lines of "it took so long to roll out vaccines that the first few groups antibodies wore off".

If solutions were the goal there would have been a staged process to achieve natural herd immunity, rather than restriction, infected, further restrictions, more infected, repeat, repeat.

Well they already “discovered” a mutation just recently of which the vaccine might not be effective for so it’s already starting down the path of keeping unconstitutional and unlawful mandates in place. This has always been about control. It takes just a little bit of common sense to see that.


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[brettdunn7]

It’s just stupid. Things have been locked down for like 9 months now. Now that there’s a vaccine available that’s not even good enough to ease up on restrictions??? If a vaccine isn’t good enough then what is???

Starting to see the truth and what the real goal is it seems.


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[brettdunn7]

I work in a busy ER as nurse, in an area that is getting slammed with COVID right now.

I passed on taking the vaccine. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I just don't feel like that I need this vaccine, nor do I feel like it has been properly tested. Historically, vaccines have proven to be safe and effective. There are the few that had serious issues. I will give the COVID vaccine a few years, at least, before I take it.

Now, if I were over 50 and had health issues, I would take it.

Same story and reasoning as my wife.


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[thinhorn_AK]

And just like that....right when the vaccine is getting rolled out and there’s a light at the end of the tunnel....there’s now an even more deadly strain of the virus, England is locking down....guess what happens next here....

 

[AndyB]

thinhorn_AK, they dont say the new variant is any more deadly, or that the new vaccine will not work with it,.... but they do say that its 70% more contagious! which is worrying.

Not all regions of England have gone into level 4 lockdown, but in Wales we have.

 

[Riplip]

So if I’m vaccinated, then why do I need to wear a mask or be subject to quarantine restrictions??? If the vaccine works, then I’d be vaccinated and no longer able to catch or spread covid.

Because the vaccine will only protect you from getting ill and then ending up hospitalized. But it's possible that you could still carry the virus and be contagious to others. So those who get the vaccine should still be wearing masks and practicing physical distancing.