Dealer trying to talk me out of a SAKO 90 WHY?

[eLightfoot]

I’ll be buying a Finnlight in 6.5creed and a hunter in 223 when they are available. Probably put a 22creed barrel on the Finnlight. Ready to sell off a bunch of rifles to accommodate the new sakos

 

[Steve300xcw]

I found the SAKO 90’s on sale at EO for an unbelievable price and asked my dealer about ordering one.
Note had to do this via text because he was actually closed this weekend, but his reply was you can get a better gun for less money, I know his opinion, but what say you Rocksliders?

Thats just his opinion. I wouldnt look to far into it unless he's getting pushy about it.

 

[JDPAPA]

Thanks again everyone.
Still thinking through this purchase.
Love reading all of the replies and I appreciate the input.

 

[juju]

If you look up FFLs you'll find a surprising number local to you who don't have storefronts. You will find that they vary in what they charge. I would ask the seller who they already have on file from your area. Them already having a copy of their FFL will make it all go more smoothly.

Personally, I'm past buying rifles I haven't at least handled one of before. I would go somewhere to lay hands on the same or very similar before ordering.

 

[vonb]

One other thing on Beretta, Back in the day, I tried to order a Sako from my local dealer. He couldn't order one due to the requirement that Beretta/distributor stated he had to carry $10k in Beretta/Sako inventory. This was probably 20 years ago. He tried to sway me another way but I eventually found a Sako. Buy what you want and don't settle for someone else's recommendations.

 

[SDHNTR]

I’ve had Remington, Ruger, Winchester, CZ, Tikka, Mauser, Sako and several custom actions. Nothing compares in a factory rifle to Sako. When I say this, I’m looking at fit, finish, feeding, extraction, accuracy and trigger.

Buy your Sako with confidence. You won’t be disappointed. It’s my favorite factory rifle. I have the Sako 75 stainless in .260.

Except for the many 75’s and 85’s that won’t eject properly. Dumbest ejector placement ever.

 

[vonb]

Except for the many 75’s and 85’s that won’t eject properly. Dumbest ejector placement ever.

Show me a 75 that had ejection issues. 85 long actions had some ejection issues.

 

[2ski]

It’s a big assumption that an FFL or a person behind the counter at gun shop knows what they are talking about, particularly with uncommon or European brands. It is a fair assumption that they will have an opinion, but it may not be based on anything real.

I mean most non sporting good store gun counters seem to know the most about AR's and conceal carry guns. I think that's what most of them get in business to sell, and it's what the majority of their customers come in to shoot the sh!t about. I've found if I want to ask about hunting guns, shotguns or rifles, mainly they're just looking up a price for me and there's no real conversation.

 

[2ski]

One other thing on Beretta, Back in the day, I tried to order a Sako from my local dealer. He couldn't order one due to the requirement that Beretta/distributor stated he had to carry $10k in Beretta/Sako inventory. This was probably 20 years ago. He tried to sway me another way but I eventually found a Sako. Buy what you want and don't settle for someone else's recommendations.

Same with Benelli. I went to a dealer and asked and he said the same about them. You can buy and get one sent but they can't order one.

 

[2ski]

Thats just his opinion. I wouldnt look to far into it unless he's getting pushy about it.

Agreed. And remembering any tone that's assumed to be implied from a text message is probably wrong. If he didn't try to push for another brand he's probably just making a comment.

 

[Davyalabama]

Can confirm from experience. Springfield, Smith & Wesson, Sig Sauer, Vortex, and Leupold are big ones for that.

I think the Ruger American Gen 2's are a great value for $600 but they're not in the same league as Tikka for me.

Hit and miss for a lot of people with regards to accuracy.

I guess it depends what you mean by decent. Savage themselves know their extractors and ejectors aren't great so they're having someone help them re-design them. Bolt feel is atrocious too. They tend to shoot decent for the money but aren't known for stellar reliability or feeling like a quality firearm.

Oh, I may have been misunderstood. I was merely pointing out there are some American brands out there. I certainly was not putting them in the same vein as the Sako. I'm sorry if I misrepresented that in any way. These brands you quoted are more general purpose inexpensive, except for Kimber, guns that one could get by with hunting.

 

[ElPollo]

I mean most non sporting good store gun counters seem to know the most about AR's and conceal carry guns. I think that's what most of them get in business to sell, and it's what the majority of their customers come in to shoot the sh!t about. I've found if I want to ask about hunting guns, shotguns or rifles, mainly they're just looking up a price for me and there's no real conversation.

Agreed, we hunters are a small portion of the firearms economy. Just look at SHOT show.

 

[SDHNTR]

Show me a 75 that had ejection issues. 85 long actions had some ejection issues.

They both do it. The ejector blade is in the same position on both.

Sako 75 Wont Eject - Sako Collectors Club Discussion Forum

Hi all, I'm new to the forum and in need of some help. I have a Sako 75 stainless hunter in .300 Win Mag. I love the gun save for one thing. It doesnt eject the shells very well. If I have a full clip the first shell will usually get tossed free, but the others just come loose and fall...

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Not hard at all. There are lots of these similar stories all over the Internet. I could also show you my dad‘s 75 in .270, but Google is easier.

 

[Sofawarrior]

Just got a Sako 90 Adventure in 308w. And my Tikka T3x is for sale. Tikkas are great rifles, with slick action and good precision. But I don’t like to turn off safety in order to empty chamber. I hunt in woods, often carrying the rifle in one hand. And I love Sakos five round magasine flush with the stock, making it possible to carry with one hand. Tikkas 3 rund mag is flush though.

Sako 90 has no plastic parts. That is a plus for me. The adjustable trigger pull weight is nice. I use the lightest setting at the range. But when it comes to hunting in late season with gloves, I might set the weight a tad heavier.

My 90 Adventure has the integrated pic rail in the action. No base needed. The action is slick, trigger is great. The metal is coated stainless.

I just can’t figure out whats not to like about the Sako 90, other than price. And I’m not a hard core Sako fanboy. This is my first Sako. My other rifles are Tikka, Kimber Montana and Mauser.

 

[8mille]

I found the SAKO 90’s on sale at EO for an unbelievable price and asked my dealer about ordering one.
Note had to do this via text because he was actually closed this weekend, but his reply was you can get a better gun for less money, I know his opinion, but what say you Rocksliders? That is an awesome rifle with good features and would be very interested to know what is out there better for cheaper, because cheap ain’t always better. Also, I am not into any custom stuff and prefer just good solid factory setups, minor mods okay but nothing major.

Joe

Hmmm. You got me curious. I’m hot to buy a Bavarian or a Hunter. For the money ($2250 range- with opti lock)they are a good value. But not if you’re unlucky to get a poor run of rifles. Then you may be buying a headache. However, Sako had a good reputation with the previous 85s for a factory heirloom type rifle. The Quest should all be tack drivers for $4000 or I ain’t interested ! The integrated Picattiny mount , trigger adjust, double plunger, and GRS stock don’t warrant the price unless they have an impeccable guarantee of being sub MOA. After all, how many truly do that make that claim?
Anyway,It’s also possible you had a salesman getting a higher profit or commission.
I’ll tell you what: I’m going up north to my Pennsylvania home the week of June 13-21. EuroOptic is a two hour drive from my house. I’ll go have a look see. I’ve been wanting to check them out for years now-and haven’t yet. I’ll handle the Sakos and the Seekins Precisions, or any other model they carry if someone has a curiosity. Just reply if anyone interested. I’m no expert but know plenty enough about firearms to get anyone through a question or curiosity they may have.

 

[8mille]

Where are you finding good American made rifles? Don't tell me about any with Mauser style wing ding safeties or rifles without bolt locks. They aren't "good" hunting rifles imo.

I started off with my grandfather’s 30-06 Mannlicher Schoenauer. It’s given me an appreciation for some foreign made factory deluxe rifles. Don’t get me wrong, they have been afflicted by bean counters too ; but seem to have an edge on American made quality. Although until I eventually add a Weatherby to my “Classic American “ brand portion of my collection, I figure they will rate
well. As for Winchester, they came back with the Mauser extractor but quality control is not as good as some have claimed. I passed on three Super Maples so far. They were shit! Poor muzzle and bore on one, poor fit and finish on another, poor bolt and safety on another. Shame too, beautiful looking rifle. I’m hot to add it as my Model 70 because I don’t have one. And Winchester could give a shit less. Maybe because they don’t make them themselves . I’ll continue to buy both American and foreign. I’m sticking with Steyr Mannlicher, Sako 90, Weatherby to finish my wood stock collection, until Winchester model 70 gets its shit together.
Just saying

 

[JDPAPA]

I don’t’ have a ton of knowledge or background as many that are here on RS. Shot the SAKO in Africa and I just couldn’t shake not having one.
Ordered one this past weekend and it will be delivered by this weekend.
Got the 30.06 Hunter.
Not sure there would be any interest in pics after I get it, but I can’t wait to get it.

Joe

 

[ddd-shooter]

I don’t’ have a ton of knowledge or background as many that are here on RS. Shot the SAKO in Africa and I just couldn’t shake not having one.
Ordered one this past weekend and it will be delivered by this weekend.
Got the 30.06 Hunter.
Not sure there would be any interest in pics after I get it, but I can’t wait to get it.

Joe

We’re gun enthusiasts.

Always ready for pics!!!

 

[8mille]

I don’t’ have a ton of knowledge or background as many that are here on RS. Shot the SAKO in Africa and I just couldn’t shake not having one.
Ordered one this past weekend and it will be delivered by this weekend.
Got the 30.06 Hunter.
Not sure there would be any interest in pics after I get it, but I can’t wait to get it.

Joe

Certainly post a picture. I’m considering the Hunter if they don’t get out the Bavarian in smaller calibers yet. Good luck - hope all is well with your new purchase. 30-06 is perfect for that rifle.

 

[8mille]

With so many good American made rifles, sending money overseas to help foreign economies doesn’t appeal to everyone.

There are good American made rifles and it pains me to not always buy American. But I’ve had much better luck with foreign firearms than American. I’ve often had issues with American made. Same with my trucks. Would always buy Ford. Always in the dealer with issues. So now now I buy Japanese pickup trucks and have had no issues. It hurts to have to buy foreign for products with less headaches, but I’ve had much better luck with their products.