CWD Cause Found

[cnelk]

Yep. Grants have supported most all of CWD testing.

You can always tell when agencies get Grant monies, as the testing for CWD is very popular.
When the money runs out, the testing goes away.

Been that way in Colorado for decades

 

[wind gypsy]

Newberg hinted to ties with the captive cervid industry and this guy. Between that and the guys in PA, seems pretty fishy.

Would be great if there was some legitimacy but it doesn't appear so.

 

[jspradley]

Newberg hinted to ties with the captive cervid industry and this guy. Between that and the guys in PA, seems pretty fishy.

Would be great if there was some legitimacy but it doesn't appear so.

Living in TX, CWD might as well be chemtrails and flat earth with all the conspiracy theorists going on about it.

The simple truth is any link to deer breeding operations threatens the livelihoods of a lot of folks, especially in TX so anyone with ties to them should automatically be suspect.

 

[wind gypsy]

Living in TX, CWD might as well be chemtrails and flat earth with all the conspiracy theorists going on about it.

Haha, it's that way in MN/ND, can't imagine TX. "Think about it, it fits right in with Agenda 21."

 

[jspradley]

Haha, it's that way in MN/ND, can't imagine TX. "Think about it, it fits right in with Agenda 21."

It's bad man... real bad.

THEY'RE TURNIN THE FREAKIN DEER GAY!!!

 

[cuerro viejo]

Living in TX, CWD might as well be chemtrails and flat earth with all the conspiracy theorists going on about it.

The simple truth is any link to deer breeding operations threatens the livelihoods of a lot of folks, especially in TX so anyone with ties to them should automatically be suspect.

Goes both ways, the industry points out the State ignoring it walking across the boarder for Ten years, then decade later and all sudden is a breeder disease. Still laughing at the antibreeders blaming the panhandle on a “released deer/elk” in Dallam county. That’s some ignorance at the highest level. Original Medina breeder outbreak site is still very interesting Since it’s an AI case and momma didn’t have it.

I could care less either way. Not a fan of the breeder industry or the practice but HF doesn’t bother me.

 

[sodak]

The paper used the word “novel”.

What they didn’t say is if that bacteria is found in non-lesion brains

Please keep in mind that growing some bacteria requires very specific growth media on the plate. It is theorized that we have little to no knowledge of a large amount of microorganisms. They just don’t grow on the traditional blood agar gel plate.

And in the research world, you need to have the experiment replicated to prove your results. One paper alone isn’t proof. Just a possible link, just like the papers abstract mentions.


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[zacattack]

You have to understand how the scientific community woks to understand some of this stuff. You need money to do research, someone has to pay for it. That money comes in the form of Federal Grant money. You have to apply for grant funding. Your grant proposal goes to a "panel of experts" that decide if you get funding or not.

That panel of experts is made up of leading researchers in the field. In the case of CWD virtually all of these people are going to be heavily involved in prion research. They may not necessarily want to upset their apple cart with new discoveries. They could simply deny any funding to the guy to prevent his research.

This type of thing happens all the time with grant funding. There are a ton of politics involved in this stuff.

That’s not how this happens. I’ve served on numerous federal grant review panels and this is not what it’s like. The panels are made of numerous scientists from multiple disciples from all over the United States. Scientists are not these evil self serving people like many believe. There are also state grants, companies also put out grants and some organizations have research funds as well

I haven’t looked at the actual article yet, but I doubt this is the smoking gun that they want it to be. I doubt that the cure for all these diseases has been discovered in deer with CWD. That one guy in the video is way optimistic. I won’t get excited until this experiment isn’t replicated in other labs.

 

[LostArra]

The word "CURE" in the headline is a red flag on my BS meter.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[tyeager2964]

Why the hate on PA though. We do have some leading deer bioligists and being that our elk herd brings in millions of dollars to the state and just happens to border one of the CWD zones gives PA incentive to work on research.

Any research to what causes CWD is a step forward in my opinion. Seems like the last 10 or 15 years have only had efforts to stop the spread which obviously hasnt worked. Even if it goes down the wrong path it may lead to new research that proves accurate.

 

[7Bartman]

I don't rule out an infectious etiology as a cause/vector of a subset of these protein folding diseases, however there are known genetic etilogies in ALS, Huntington's, and familial Creutzfeldt-Jakob's disease. In many of these cases there are clear mechanistic explanations of why the disease happens (e.g. polyglutamine tract protein misfolding).
I don't post this to sound cool, but rather help shed skepticism on this kind of thing, which is not easily recognized unless you work in the field. The findings of this lab have not been independently replicated or reviewed to my knowledge.

 

[spaniel]

That’s not how this happens. I’ve served on numerous federal grant review panels and this is not what it’s like. The panels are made of numerous scientists from multiple disciples from all over the United States. Scientists are not these evil self serving people like many believe. There are also state grants, companies also put out grants and some organizations have research funds as well

I haven’t looked at the actual article yet, but I doubt this is the smoking gun that they want it to be. I doubt that the cure for all these diseases has been discovered in deer with CWD. That one guy in the video is way optimistic. I won’t get excited until this experiment isn’t replicated in other labs.

I would agree that scientists are not evil self serving people. But they are human and subject to their own biases. I have personally been involved in research which challenged long-established dogma. As soon as we submitted the first paper, grants were rejected and top journals wouldn't touch it. People on those review committees and participating in peer review weren't evil, but they were biased against work that challenged much of what they had published during their careers.

Once the work was independently replicated, everything changed.

My first question would be whether his work has been independently replicated.