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Correct me if I’m wrong but scotus most likely won’t rule on this unless another circuit court rules opposite the 10th?
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Correct me if I’m wrong but scotus most likely won’t rule on this unless another circuit court rules opposite the 10th?
I'd laugh if a conglomerate sued him now under the same basis, lol. Even to just waste his time and money in court.If poor Eschelman's dimminution of value claim is accurate, potential realtor fees just took a hit. Big ranches are often priced as if the checkerboard public ground is only available for the private buyer's use.
You need to literally find the corner pin, I wouldn't want to be trying to do that on the fly in a hunt vs scouting it out well before hand.Anyone ready to take a big step and test it? In my e-scouting for this weekend I have a spot that would be great if I felt comfortable doing it.
Maybe a dumb question. But what if there isn’t a corner marker? I would imagine most corners lack a defined survey marker.You need to literally find the corner pin, I wouldn't want to be trying to do that on the fly in a hunt vs scouting it out well before hand.
I’d imagine there’s a handful a large landowners in the West not happy with him.If poor Eschelman's dimminution of value claim is accurate, potential realtor fees just took a hit. Big ranches are often priced as if the checkerboard public ground is only available for the private buyer's use.
If we're talking mile x mile sections, I believe all 4 corners of those would have been marked at some time. Whether they still exist can raise questions. A survey marker would not be up for interpretation.Maybe a dumb question. But what if there isn’t a corner marker? I would imagine most corners lack a defined survey marker.
Not to worry. I put up posts and locks to keep the landowners from stealing or concealing the corner markers throughout the state of Wyoming.I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of corner markers have disappeared over the past couple years.
Making the actual corner hard to find/access seems like a primary play landowners would have.
I would imagine that would carry a hefty penalty if caught.....if caught!I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of corner markers have disappeared over the past couple years.
Making the actual corner hard to find/access seems like a primary play landowners would have.
I see what you’re saying. But the SC declined to hear the appeal. The 10th circuit is large and influential. It’s unlikely another western state would even attempt to prosecute a corner crosser now.I don’t see it as a win. I see it as a be patient. Somebody else is going to do it, get ticketed, lose and then take it to the Supreme Court. Where money will influence their ruling.
I hope I’m wrong.
Damn, nice job using a helo! My brother and I were chatting about this last night. Good thoughts as well.Zero immediate harm is done by corner crossing, but it's naive to discount how many of these landowners feel. Calling them crybabies doesn't do it justice. I'm not agreeing with or defending them, but for decades, corner crossing wasn't a concern. Unless an ambitious hunter used a plane or helicopter to access public land (which I've done twice now), the landowners controlled all the access. That was their normal, and they got used to it.
With corner crossing now being allowed, I can see how landowners are upset and fighting to maintain the status quo. It's a losing battle, and you're correct in no immediate harm being done, but many of these checkerboarded private properties will go down in value. And if you've ever known a rich person, there are two things they don't like: losing power and losing money.
The older I get, the more I realize how contentious the battle for land access is. This year, our group accessed two parcels of landlocked public land by helicopter. One ranch surrounds this land. The female landowner was so upset that she said repeatedly, "If I can't have those lands exclusively...I will go up there and destroy that land so no one can use it."
Just think about that mindset. It's insane. Yet many believe that this public land is theirs, and if they can't have sole ownership, they're willing to burn it down so no one can enjoy it. Once you understand that mindset, you realize how far someone like Eshelman (and many others) will go to maintain control of these public lands.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of corner markers have disappeared over the past couple years.
Making the actual corner hard to find/access seems like a primary play landowners would have.
And if you've ever known a rich person, there are two things they don't like: losing power and losing money.
The older I get, the more I realize how contentious the battle for land access is. This year, our group accessed two parcels of landlocked public land by helicopter. One ranch surrounds this land. The female landowner was so upset that she said repeatedly, "If I can't have those lands exclusively...I will go up there and destroy that land so no one can use it."
Just think about that mindset. It's insane. Yet many believe that this public land is theirs, and if they can't have sole ownership, they're willing to burn it down so no one can enjoy it. Once you understand that mindset, you realize how far someone like Eshelman (and many others) will go to maintain control of these public lands.