Cold Bow 2024.... QnA Thread

[Warmsy]

Thanks for doing this Corb

First thing that jumps out at me (for compounds simple average) is that with the five day challenge last year we had 68% hits in the vitals and this year going to three arrow we had 76%.

Not totally direct comparisons because last year‘s had field points mixed in it

Average two years together and shooters are missing about 30% cold bow shots on any given day, with an average MER of about 55 yards.

What does everyone think about that? Are we being realistic about our MERs. Should we be 100% to really claim it as our MER?

I thought the MER was supposed to be a challenge? I practice at 20 yards all the time and can shoot great groups during practice. I missed all my shots because I wasn't focused on my shot sequence. I learned from the experience, and am improving moving Forward. Maybe 20 yards isn't realistic without more practice.

 

[realunlucky]

Thanks for doing this Corb

First thing that jumps out at me (for compounds simple average) is that with the five day challenge last year we had 68% hits in the vitals and this year going to three arrow we had 76%.

Not totally direct comparisons because last year‘s had field points mixed in it

Average two years together and shooters are missing about 30% cold bow shots on any given day, with an average MER of about 55 yards.

What does everyone think about that? Are we being realistic about our MERs. Should we be 100% to really claim it as our MER?

Id say shooting 2 more arrows is there is more than an 50% chance to have a flyer evaluated into the data.

Also the longer you go without shooting the more likely your shot sequence breaks down and you drop an arrow.

Of course what do I know, I shoot one arrow and crowned myself kind of the challenge and hung my bow up.

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[robby denning]

I thought the MER was supposed to be a challenge? I practice at 20 yards all the time and can shoot great groups during practice. I missed all my shots because I wasn't focused on my shot sequence. I learned from the experience, and am improving moving Forward. Maybe 20 yards isn't realistic without more practice.

If I’m understanding you then I think you’re agreeing with only 70% of shots hitting the vitals that were definitely challenging ourselves?

But it seems, we’re also over estimating our MER 30% of shots fired as an average

 

[Warmsy]

If I’m understanding you then I think you’re agreeing with only 70% of shots hitting the vitals that were definitely challenging ourselves?

But it seems, we’re also over estimating our MER 30% of shots fired as an average

I would agree with that rephrasing. If it was 100% of shots hit, then where is the challenge?

I was challenged and humbled.

 

[Jstumbaugh]

I think the whole idea is to have some hits and some misses. Pushing yourself to your limit and then a little further is the idea. See what your actual MER may be. I went from 60 to 70 and then decreased my target size at 70 over the last three challenges. I wasn’t overall happy with my performance this year but I also wasn’t as prepared as I have been in the past. Statistically 5 shots would give a better scope on the data. 3 shots worked better for many people to compete.

 

[Sea Wolf]

For me, it was my understanding that the challenge is one COLD broadhead shot within the range you are confident. Not pushing the distance.

Being realistic with shooting an animal at distance, I'm going to get close enough that it's a layup and a higher hit percentage.

For my abilities and how prepared I was this year, I know at 50 and beyond, I get about 75% hits with a broadhead and I don't feel like that's effective.

So going to the edge of my distance I can hit with confidence makes sense, and the variable is the cold bow.

 

[Bill V]

[mention]Bill V [/mention] are your vanes ever going to be offered in another color or should I just order the white and move on lol

What color would you want?

 

[Billy Goat]

What color would you want?

A matte black that doesn't have a sheen to it would be cool.

 

[lak2004]

For me, it was my understanding that the challenge is one COLD broadhead shot within the range you are confident. Not pushing the distance.

Being realistic with shooting an animal at distance, I'm going to get close enough that it's a layup and a higher hit percentage.

For my abilities and how prepared I was this year, I know at 50 and beyond, I get about 75% hits with a broadhead and I don't feel like that's effective.

So going to the edge of my distance I can hit with confidence makes sense, and the variable is the cold bow.

My mentality is similar but I also use this time to experiment and think about a distance that I might sling an arrow if I'm real motivated.

 

[silasbowhunter]

What color would you want?

I like pink vanes for visibility haha


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[robby denning]

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[Howard Mee]

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[9.1]

Congrats, guys! Thanks, mods and sponsors! I guess I can safely order a set of Argali game bags now.

 

[dirtshooter]

Dang, gonna have to really get into the coldbore challenge and try again to win something

 

[CorbLand]

Thanks for doing this Corb

First thing that jumps out at me (for compounds simple average) is that with the five day challenge last year we had 68% hits in the vitals and this year going to three arrow we had 76%.

Not totally direct comparisons because last year‘s had field points mixed in it

Average two years together and shooters are missing about 30% cold bow shots on any given day, with an average MER of about 55 yards.

What does everyone think about that? Are we being realistic about our MERs. Should we be 100% to really claim it as our MER?

I broke out the hit rate for BH for 2023, so you can compare those directly to each other (3.35 out of 5) .

As a percentage, 2024 saw an increase of about 10% in hit rate. Could be attributed to a ton of factors but I would venture to guess its one or combination of three. 1. Less instances means that 1 success increase the average more than last year. (1 of 3 success is 33% where 1 of 5 success is 20%). 2. Only allowing broadheads changed the group of shooters. IE guys that shoot a lot are more likely to shoot broadheads. 3. More people were dropping shots 4 and/or 5.

2023 we had a BH mode of 4 (mode is the most common number) and this year we had a mode of 3. Meaning, more people only hit 4 times last year (80%) where as this year, more people hit 3 times (100%).

 

[lak2004]

Here goes the drawing! posting live as I pull the numbers. Drawing from first prize listed (Phone Skope) to last (Iron Will). Just hit the refresh button to see this post update every few minutes!!!

@CM Phone Skope Bundle up to $150 here

@bbckfh Pyro Putty $50 firestarter package here

@Okie-hunter onX Hunt Elite $99 Membership here

@lak2004 SKRE Elite Starter Bundle $342 here

@fatlander Argali $150 High Country Pack here & MOB Pack here

@CaseyU MTNTOUGH $239, 1-Year here Subscription + Merch Package

@johnw Black Ovis' up to $79, Dozen Custom Arrow Build in Arrow ID here

@silasbowhunter Iron Will up to $119, 3-pack of broadheads to one winner.
here

(Dang @Trumpkin The Dwarf , you bit the dust again! lol, sorry man!)

Everyone who was drawn, PM me your email address and shipping address to @robby denning by June 14 to claim your prize. All trades are arranged between members and must be completed before you PM me.

Thanks Everyone! Especially all the mods working behind the scenes!
And of course the sponsors who put up over $1200 in prizes to encourage better bowhunters.

Wow thanks to rokslide and the sponsors, awesome deal!

 

[CM]

Thanks for putting this on! I'm really hoping my luck transfers to the Idaho and Wyoming draws

 

[NEPkaspot]

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[Okie-hunter]

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[silasbowhunter]

Thanks again to all the mods, members, and sponsors for helping with this challenge!


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