So you can buy a land owner voucher in a unit, from a guy cause he owns private land then hunt the public land a guy drew and used his points for?? Sorry I'm still new, that's insane if it's the case.
So you can buy a land owner voucher in a unit, from a guy cause he owns private land then hunt the public land a guy drew and used his points for?? Sorry I'm still new, that's insane if it's the case.
Here's a question for all of you. If you have a tag/voucher for private land, and the animal you shoot runs on to public land. Can you go get it?
Yes, you can!!! Talk about "stealing opportunity from the youth". LO vouchers are good for the whole unit not just private land. I know a particular wealthy guy who owns substantial land in unit 61. He get's on average 4-6 rifle bull elk tags every year. He doles these out to his other rich friends and they usually all shoot decent bulls every year. How is that fair?
I don't support or am against point banking. I can see both sides of the argument. Saying a kid can't hunt deer until he's 19 or 20 isn't true though. They might not be able to hunt in a particular unit, but there's always other "opportunity" units. I have kids and one is at hunting age. She can't draw certain units because of points but that doesn't mean we can't get out together and have some really good times hunting together. This all comes down to "trophy" hunting... otherwise no one would care.
Let me reword it. Some vouchers are only good for the land owners property. Lets assume that's the case, or we can talk about a private land tag you got in the draw. Can you still go get the deer if it runs on public land after you shoot it? I asked a warden this question, so I do know the answer. What say you?
I have no idea? If your hunting public land, shoot something and it runs onto private, your supposed to call the game warden so they can contact the land owner and retrieve the animal. I'm assuming the same would be true in reverse? If I shot something on private land with a private land only tag I'd probably call the game warden to explain the situation to avoid any trouble.
I just love the way people cry that something "isn't fair". Where does it say that hunting access has to be fair? Next thing guys will be demanding access to private land to hunt.........oh ya, they already are.
Guy buys a LO Tag for $10k......."that isn't fair". Guy buys a $40 million ranch........."that isn't fair". Ya, I guess we should require the landowner to share his wealth with everyone, and the guy that can afford LO Tags should share his wealth with everyone as well. Sound familiar.........just like our illustrious liberals in government.
Under point banking 0 point units for deer will be a thing of the past. This is true. Simply too many hunters for to few tags. Point leap of 2-3 points in any current draw unit that currently takes 1-6 points to draw is expected.
I am against vouchers as well or any time you use one you should use your points. All vouchers are not bought. When you grow up around ranching and landowners friends just give them out to family to hunt more than a lot of you realize. They are not going away and this discussion is about point banking that is not related to LO vouchers but feel free to start a LO thread as good discussion would pry ensue.
Don't think that kids are shooting for 4 th season 44 but I would like then to hunt a current 1 to 2 point unit before they are 20... Under point banking this will not happen. If you have someone hunting 2,3,4 or 5 years in a row someone will not be hunting 2,3,4,5, or six years in a row. The hunters who will not hunt are the lowest point holder and in 2018 there is no lower point holder than a current 10 year old.
The boys in Vegas make a ton of cash off of reasonable folks who don't understand statistics and percentages. If you believe that hunting every year on leftovers or in 0 point units will happen under point banking... Well don't go to Vegas or you will be one of the guys powering all the lights!
Thanks to all posters for the discussion.