Cimmaron,Redcliffe or kifaru sawtooth

[torrey.harris.5]

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[HankBC]

Great thread guys! Thanks a ton, probably going to look into a Cimarron for this year. That vs sawtooth, just not sure the sawtooth is worth the extra $$? Seems like the Cimarron is the way to go. Going to be used throughout spring/fall. Probably buy a Lite Outside stove come late fall. 1-2 people plus my Cane Corso! Should be good right?


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[luke moffat]

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What more information are you seeking that you haven't already gotten on this thread or researched elsewhere? Might be more helpful to know more what you are looking to know than just randomly bumping he thread to the top

 

[Felix40]

What more information are you seeking that you haven't already gotten on this thread or researched elsewhere? Might be more helpful to know more what you are looking to know than just randomly bumping he thread to the top

Im wondering the same thing. 4 pages of discussion here. If there are specifics you want lets hear them.

 

[torrey.harris.5]

Sorry
Just wanted to keep it alive for other newbies


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[Historybuff]

This is great info but I'm still on the fence with redcliff and sawtooth. I'm leaning towards redcliff tho.

 

[Jtelarkin08]

Any reason there seems to be alot of guys going from the cimmeron and jumping over the 4 man strait to the redcliff?? I was thinking about getting the 4 man for the stand up room but still light enough to use for a solo shelter??

 

[mfllood3800]

I studied the Redcliff and sawtooth, these were the 2 I narrowed it down to. I solo hunt as well as 2-3 people. The only tent I could see working for me was the redcliffe. I like 2 doors, ease of quick set up, weight was well within my required window. One of my hunt buddies is over 6' and the redcliff will work best him.

I needed girth and height with a square platform to set up quickly in bad weather if needed, and the price was equal to the sawtooth.

Not part of the OP question, but the stove I opted for was the Lite outside 18" cylinder. The reason again $$$ , Weigh and especially the 3 long bolts to hold it tight act as a pan tray to cook on.

Anyway these are my reasons. Works for my set up needs

 

[Jtelarkin08]

Anyone have any Input on why the 4 man Tipi gets skipped over??

 

[MontanaMarine]

I had a SO 4-man tipi. Really a great shelter, and should be totally bombproof with it's shape and number of stake points. At 6'3" I could stand beside the pole, but my head was against the fabric.

So I decided to add 1 lb to my pack in favor of the added standing room and overall space of the 6-man. I really like the additional space. With 7'10" at the peak I can walk in and actually move around a bit near the center. The extra floorspace is really nice too. 5.8 lbs all-in is not that bad, for the comfort and sense of space.

 

[Southern Lights]

Anyone have any Input on why the 4 man Tipi gets skipped over??

Same question. I am about to pull the trigger on either a SO 4 man tipi or the Redcliff. Other than being lighter, does the 4 man offer other advantages over the Redcliff? My understanding is the tipi shape may handle foul weather better, but be pickier to setup. Are there other advantages to the tipi design vs. the pyramids?

My application is backcountry hunting in potentially wet environments. Wind is a possibility in the tops above treeline, but I will try to pitch in sheltered areas wherever possible. I will be mainly solo, but may have one other partner on occasion. I am looking for a shelter that I can stand in to be more comfortable. I have a lightweight tent already. This purchase is when I'm willing to carry a little more weight to get standing room and perhaps a stove in when I feel the situation warrants it,


Thanks for any and all insights.

 

[Akicita]

Same question. I am about to pull the trigger on either a SO 4 man tipi or the Redcliff. Other than being lighter, does the 4 man offer other advantages over the Redcliff? My understanding is the tipi shape may handle foul weather better, but be pickier to setup. Are there other advantages to the tipi design vs. the pyramids?

My application is backcountry hunting in potentially wet environments. Wind is a possibility in the tops above treeline, but I will try to pitch in sheltered areas wherever possible. I will be mainly solo, but may have one other partner on occasion. I am looking for a shelter that I can stand in to be more comfortable. I have a lightweight tent already. This purchase is when I'm willing to carry a little more weight to get standing room and perhaps a stove in when I feel the situation warrants it,


Thanks for any and all insights.

4 Man Tipi is a great shelter but for me I gave a slight edge to the Redcliff because of the footprint. I have bucked some pretty heavy winds and weather with it and use it often as a luxury solo shelter below and above treeline.

 

[mfllood3800]

The redcliffe allows you set it up quickly as it is a square base. The tipi style helps in the adverse weather conditions. The height is a selling point for taller people. Really ended up being a "no brainer" for me. I really wanted the 4 man kifaru tipi, then the sawtooth, but then I discovered the SO redcliffe. It is on order and I just burned in my stove

 

[Southern Lights]

Cheers for that. I have decided that the small additional weight of the Redcliff is probably worth the more flexible layout and space vs. the 4 man. Since this is a luxury shelter, I figured I'd go for the additional room and get the SXL stove as well for longer burn times and bigger door.

I'll post a follow-up once I get everything and see how it goes.

 

[Tex68w]

I am still torn on which way to go here.

 

[Davebuech]

I finally decided on the Sawtooth. On order.

 

[Hiwallman]

I have a sawtooth and my hunting partner just bought the Redcliff. Two people and gear is max in the sawtooth with stove. I've also owned a 4-man -6 man but now have a Seek Outside 8 man tipi as well. I love the room in the 8 man but sometimes it's not practical to pack in so that's when the Sawtooth comes along. After spending a few days in the Redcliff I must admit that I really like the ease of setting up and the double doors. If the Redcliff was available when I bought my Sawtooth I may have lost a little sleep trying to decide. Both excellent shelters. I have never been in a Cimmaron yet

 

[Ghost]

In case anyone's wondering about condensation without the liners in a Redcliff, I set mine up a week or so ago, had a fire going in the stove, it got down right hot in the tent. Went to sleep woke up with a nice coating of frost inside the tent, fired up the stove and it dried out everything but the lowest foot of the tent. Now I realize that there is alot more moisture in the air here in PA than out west but Im going to get the liners, if there was frost with just me in the tent, Id imagine you stick 4 people in there and the condensation is going to be bad, I would think if the tents not below freezing and someone hits the tent wall, it would "rain" inside the tent.