California Rokslide Special & Mono Recommendations

[NVUplandHunter]

You’re absolutely correct. My goal is to be able to practice and ethically make that shot if I need to. In no case do I ever want to make a shot that far, however this specific situation may require it, hence I need my rifle to be capable. I have seen a few of Erik Cortina’s videos and it is interesting how hard it is to hit vitals even at 500yards. Similar to my archery hunting, I will only take shots that I know I can make. If I don’t like anything about the shot I am not taking it.

i know im a little late to this party but im curious of this very specific situation and the extreme distance? im curious why you cant get closer to make the shot, if you're making the shot at all? because after that shot youll have to walk right up to the deer. i dont mean this in any negative way, just curious of this situation. it sounds interesting

 

[SDHNTR]

I am very green to the small caliber center fire rifle game, however I do want to give it a shot. Partially because I enjoy shooting lower recoiling rifles, as well as being able to build a rifle that anyone can shoot. I am looking to build a lightweight chassis rifle with a barrel of about 18”-20” in 22creed or 6creed(any other recommendations?). My main target is deer , bear, and smaller game, although if it works well I could be convinced to use it on bigger animals. However, the issue I keep running into is having to use mono bullets to be legal in California, and have an impact velocity that can expand mono bullets reliably out to 700yards. Although I know my shooting capability might not be up to par with some people here I need this capability based on a very specific situation that can not be avoided in order to be successful and only occurs only in California. Anything outside of this specific use case I would ideally be 500 yards and in. Does anyone have any recommendations on good mono bullets and if there is even a possibility that I can get a 18” rifle to reach the speed needed to have good terminal ballistics out to 700yards? Any advice will help and I am open to any caliber recommendations as well! Thank you for your help!

“I need this capability based on a very specific situation that can not be avoided in order to be successful and only occurs only in California”

I’m also curious about this statement. I’ve killed hundreds of game in CA and have never had to shoot 700 yards in order to be successful.

And the whole point of the small cal argument is to use a heavy for caliber, highly frangible, bullet. That is not legally possible in CA so it seems to me you are trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.

CA/Monos. Small caliber. Long range. Something has to give. You can’t have all 3. Pick two.

 

[Encinoman]

FNG from southern cal here with the same dilemma on copper bullet performance past 400 yards. I’m currently shooting a 7 prc with Barnes 160lrx, and am very intrigued by this idea.

The new 89gr 6mm hammer hbc looks like it would fit the bill on paper, but have not gone down this path yet.

 

[ElPollo]

Thanks Form! After doing more and more research and looking at velocities in the Berger ballistics calculator, the 22creed and 79gr DRT seem to be perfect for what I want to do.

Based on their website DRT only ships ammo and projectiles to FFL holders in CA. Sounds like you may have to find a dealer who carries their stuff.

 

[SDHNTR]

FNG from southern cal here with the same dilemma on copper bullet performance past 400 yards. I’m currently shooting a 7 prc with Barnes 160lrx, and am very intrigued by this idea.

The new 89gr 6mm hammer hbc looks like it would fit the bill on paper, but have not gone down this path yet.

You will have zero issue with your current setup well past 400 yards.

 

[Encinoman]

You will have zero issue with your current setup well past 400 yards.

No concerns, just intrigued by the idea of a compact 22 or 6 creed build that OP suggested.

I built the 7 prc with intent to maintain expansion velocity out to 600, but now realizing that can be accomplished very well with smaller cartridges as well with a few select projectiles.

 

[SDHNTR]

No concerns, just intrigued by the idea of a compact 22 or 6 creed build that OP suggested.

I built the 7 prc with intent to maintain expansion velocity out to 600, but now realizing that can be accomplished very well with smaller cartridges as well with a few select projectiles.

It can, but not so much with monos. IMO, the small caliber long range argument leaks significantly when monos enter the discussion.

 

[RichardSkinner]

“I need this capability based on a very specific situation that can not be avoided in order to be successful and only occurs only in California”

I’m also curious about this statement. I’ve killed hundreds of game in CA and have never had to shoot 700 yards in order to be successful.

And the whole point of the small cal argument is to use a heavy for caliber, highly frangible, bullet. That is not legally possible in CA so it seems to me you are trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.

CA/Monos. Small caliber. Long range. Something has to give. You can’t have all 3. Pick two.

On top of this, I am also curious why you want such a short barrel? Most guys in free states do that so with a suppressor they are a the standard length of a rifle with a 24" barrel or so.

Its not like you're clearing rooms and needing a 18" barrel then shooting long range.

 

[grizz19]

I’ve shot Barnes and hammer. They have both worked for me just have to keep your weights done and speeds up. I prefer the hammers, they are more consistent bullet to bullet and super accurate. I’m building a 25 creed and going with the 107 HBC for Cali. Depending on speed and BC validation I’d have no problem using it out to 600.

 

[SDHNTR]

This was back in Feb. so much for 2 weeks!

 

[Leaf Litter]

He got raked over the coals in a previous discussion here.

For what reason?