California is a joke

[rodney482]

Exactly the same thoughts I had..

W.T.F.

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[bigmoose]

Here's the thing. I had the same thing happen. My mistake was calling the warden. They won't come out unless they're just driving by. A buddy told me to call the county sheriff, which I did, and a guy came right out to put the doe down. I'm not sure why the warden didn't mention calling the sheriff but in Amador county the sheriffs handle all these kind of calls. I just called the dispatcher and gave her a accurate description of where the doe was and she said no problem.

 

[Jeff Martin]

Did Nancy Pelosi join Rokslide? WTH?????

 

[flyinsquirel]

No way in hell Ryan would approve Pelosi 's membership request.

 

[Brodie]

Ever try to cut ones throat?
I put a doe out of her misery after getting hit using my pocket knife. Tried to grab an ear and be quick but she still got a few kicks in. Had a couple cuts on my shins afterwards...made me think what would of happened had she got me in the jugular or something!


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[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Sure you were. You even stated that here......."I explained that I had no problem taking care of it to end his suffering". That's an emotional plea. Logic says the animal dies either way. But if you're willing to accept the risk of getting charged with poaching, then sure......go for it. But if you remove emotions from it........it doesn't matter that nature takes it's course longer than you care for.

I don't care that someone dispatches the animal.....that's fine. But when you bring suffering into the equation......that's an emotional plea, and immediately goes against any and all hunting situations as well. That's the liberals entire basis for ending hunting........the poor animals are suffering. I don't and won't fall into that trap. Of course compassion is definitely NOT one of my gifts I've been given either. Logic on the other hand is paramount.

While I mostly agree to your appeal to logic, to what end? Do you not push a child out of the way of a moving vehicle? The child will eventually die anyway, as all things do, so risking injury to yourself would be illogical and by your reasoning saving the child would be emotional. I see the letting the animal suffer as needless regardless of the eventuality of the situation and therefore illogical. I would have dispatched the animal, even by rock if necessary (I have with a tire iron before), and likely would not have called it in. We make decisions based on risk benefit analysis and sometimes those benefits are simply appeasing emotions. If there is no consequence, would you dispatch the animal or simply let nature take it's course? If you would dispatch it you're still succumbing to the very same "emotions", you just deem the personal risk low enough to make it worth it to you. I read an article recently that goes so far as to say all decisions are emotional based. Here it is:

Decisions Are Emotional, Not Logical: The Neuroscience behind Decision Making | Big Think

I have yet to research it further but thought it was an interesting take as I too have always considered myself to have logic at the helm instead of emotion.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Wasting meat is illogical in my world. Kind of like opening up your last bottle of water and pouring it out. Is that emotional or illogical.

That's an unequal comparison and in this case wasting meat that may or may not be recovered may increase one's chances greatly for putting meat in the freezer based on countless variables.

 

[neverquit]

You guys need a hobbie

 

[5MilesBack]

While I mostly agree to your appeal to logic, to what end?

It was a very simple end and simple logical point that I was trying to get out of Dos Perros until tipsntails jumped in running all over the place with assertions to false premises that were never made. My point would have ended quickly and logically without all the extra nonsense. But with ADHD, I'll chase just about any rabbit that enters the scene.

And Bar, emotional decisions can be made as long as you're willing to accept the consequences of said decisions. There's a reason why there's a long standing suggestion in life to NOT make decisions in an emotional state. Emotional decisions are not the best decisions in one's life.........(or in governing our country).

 

[Bar]

Well, I know me. I would call the warden and do what he recommends. I know him, so I know he wouldn't brush me off. I'm positive he would tell me to put her down unless he was close by.

As to those who wonder how to do it? I always have a Buck 110 on my belt. The doe has a broken hip and can't stand up. I would get beside her and sit on her back like you would rife a horse holding her down with my weight. With no hesitation i'd reach around and slit her throat. The Buck is razor sharp and she would barely feel it. Job done.

If that's too touchy-feely for some of you tough guys. Too bad.

 

[Dos Perros]

Ahhhhhh.....now we're getting somewhere. You finally thought the logic through didn't you? Success. That's all I was trying to do for you.

Get ****ed man. It was a simple question which you avoided in an attempt to be some holier-than-thou smart ass. You misapplied logic yourself to make some stupid point.

 

[tipsntails7]

It was a very simple end and simple logical point that I was trying to get out of Dos Perros until tipsntails jumped in running all over the place with assertions to false premises that were never made. My point would have ended quickly and logically without all the extra nonsense. But with ADHD, I'll chase just about any rabbit that enters the scene.

And Bar, emotional decisions can be made as long as you're willing to accept the consequences of said decisions. There's a reason why there's a long standing suggestion in life to NOT make decisions in an emotional state. Emotional decisions are not the best decisions in one's life.........(or in governing our country).

Dude your reading comprehension has to be one of the worst I've ever seen....

You are literally THE only one that made a situation up. This was literally something that happened and you asked the stupid question about bashing it to death with a rock... you inserted variables that were not present in the initial question, apparently in your hypothetical you were clearly trying to glean to what lengths they would go to fulfill their "moral obligations". But apparently everyone else on this thread who said they would use a weapon( that any grown man would carry) is a false premise. When in fact what you did is exactly that. Your so ignorant and delusional that you don't realize that your point wasn't even made, as the guy you believe to have made your point to just told you to **** off... he wasn't agreeing with you, he just didn't have the strength to continue to argue with you... hence "tap out"... he's had enough... of your nonsense...

And on a completely unrelated not, it is IMPOSSIBLE to devoid your decision of emotions unless your a psychopath..

Case in point me replying to your posts. I wish I could scroll right by your condescending, hypocritical ridiculous posts, but I can't, because your so full of shit your eyes are brown, and I can't help but say something..


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[TJ]

I know this is off topic, but logic must prevail!!!!!

 

[IdahoElk]

This train wreck has more twists than a Kuiu thread!

 

[Bar]

Entertainment before the hunt.

 

[Idaho CTD]

I just went through this driving home from my elk hunt. The guy in front of me ran over a doe in a SUV, almost got both of them. He broke the back of the deer and ran over it's neck. It really launched the SUV in the air when the back tires went over her. Surprisingly the deer had it's head up and was trying to get up with it's front legs. I had my rifle in the front seat and finished her. She was right in the middle of a two lane highway in the mountains so it would have been pretty hazardous to leave her there. The dipsh!t that hit her comes strolling out in his flip flops and board shorts and says "Did you shoot her?". I said yes and she is now laying in the ditch right there. I asked him if his car was OK and he said yes then off I went. He totally wasn't paying attention. I saw the deer at the same time he did from 100yds behind him. There isn't any cell service where we were and I still would of done the same thing had there been.

 

[kicker338]

This train wreck has more twists than a Kuiu thread!

This is the norm for almost all threads started about California

 

[Backpack Hunter]

Well....I didn't have any trouble following 5MilesBack's logic.

 

[I Beam]

A bit non-sequitor. This reminds me of a story that happened to my dad and his buddy while stationed in Germany. His buddy was bitten by a squirrel. He was able to capture the squirrel (alive) and take it to the hospital to be tested for rabies. They told him it was against the law to kill that particular squirrel for testing and they couldn't perform the rabies test.
Adapt and improvise.
They went out to the parking lot, where the squirrel had a horrible "accident" - went back inside and asked if they could test it now. They could.

Now back to the California spike.

 

[Bar]

Lol