Dunno how much it hurt but I know I ceased spending money with them over it. That one email reply they sent someone about how the poacher muley freak was posting interesting updates from his side of things was weird, its like the poach muley freak wrote the email himself type of weird. Even if they wanted to give the benefit of the doubt while in court the convictions aren't up for debate, they happened and yet they continued to carry gear from the poacher muley freak. Can't say I hoped for them going out of business, I personally hoped they'd do the right thing a sever ties with the poacher muley freak.