Average Grouping / Experience Level

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So I’m in the same boat as HonkeyMcGee88, I just bought my bow at the beginning of February and have been shooting it almost every morning (if I can wake up on time) and if I’m not busy. I have been able to shoot at least 3-5 times a week and I have started from the basics. 354608DD-7EBC-4775-8E28-BE899146A02B.jpeg01700EA8-5E01-4846-A9D6-BC93C87C6E00.jpeg1F9301D8-BD6D-4E15-BB7D-46CADA4CF815.jpeg6F3AE8C3-CCF1-449C-80F3-178BF5FDF98B.jpeg3FB28C5D-C318-4D75-A498-630BA5C16F9E.jpeg
Here are some of my groupings at 20 and I know I need a lot of work that’s why I practice multiple times a week. I am using a Tru ball release that was given to me but plan on upgrading to a thumb release soon. Shooting with a Mathews Vertix at 60 pounds.
 
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I appreciate all the feedback guys. I share a lot of the same ideas as some have mentioned and have a few things to think on as well.

I'll try to get some photos of my first groups of the day at each range tomorrow or the next day...might take a day off from soreness of shooting too much lol.

Just got a few of my pins readjusted after changing some things on my sight today...now I just gotta get my broadheads tuned up.

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A lot of my focus when I shoot has just been about getting the basics down. Making sure I am being consistent in my shots and then worrying about groupings after i have warmed up and have my form down. Mostly I shoot at the 4 different targets i have on my bag so I am not concerned with hitting the same spot as my previous arrow.
 

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Heres something that might help Honk and Dylan........Can you call the shot?

So when you shoot and arrow....does your form and follow through allow you to tell where that arrow is going....for example....you drifted just a hair right?

Follow through is a critical step in extreme accuracy. Calling the shot is a big help in hunting scenarios. Some guys go blank on the shot- not good reinforcing bad habits.

Calling the shot is essentially getting an exact feel of your form and mental picture of where the pin was at the time of the shot.

This will also help you self diagnose form flaws- flinching, punching, peeking, etc. Its a good tool for target and hunting.


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For the most part yes, I can feel if its a good shot or bad shot. I have just recently been able to call them though.
 
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Heres something that might help Honk and Dylan........Can you call the shot?

So when you shoot and arrow....does your form and follow through allow you to tell where that arrow is going....for example....you drifted just a hair right?

Follow through is a critical step in extreme accuracy. Calling the shot is a big help in hunting scenarios. Some guys go blank on the shot- not good reinforcing bad habits.

Calling the shot is essentially getting an exact feel of your form and mental picture of where the pin was at the time of the shot.

This will also help you self diagnose form flaws- flinching, punching, peeking, etc. Its a good tool for target and hunting.


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Yes I have generally been able to tell when a shot is bad as it breaks. Also there are times I still catch myself activating the release rather than pulling through. Sometimes they are good sometimes they aren't.

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A good shop can make a HUGE difference too...my shop basically gave me mini private lessons the first 5 times I came in.. just little pointers to help get me started right. Performance Archery in San Diego is AWESOME
 
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I shot almost everyday this winter blank bailing with a hinge and resistance just working on pulling through the shot that and more holding weight has helped my further groups more than anything. I went from 85% to 77 I’m holding 16.5 lbs and it’s really helped with pulling through the shot and pin float
 
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I shot almost everyday this winter blank bailing with a hinge and resistance just working on pulling through the shot that and more holding weight has helped my further groups more than anything. I went from 85% to 77 I’m holding 16.5 lbs and it’s really helped with pulling through the shot and pin float
My new bow is 85% and my local shop is supposed to be ordering me some lower weights. They just haven't made it in yet.

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Here's the announcement for the 2019 Cold Bow Challenge.

If anyone asks me if we can do it later in the year so they're "ready", I'm gonna sic @Beendare on him!!!

Hope to see some of you guys there. I guarantee if you don't cheat, you will feel the pressure in this challenge! I've folded like a taco at least one day in this challenge the last two years.

https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/2019-cold-bow-challenge.125038/
 
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Here's the announcement for the 2019 Cold Bow Challenge.

If anyone asks me if we can do it later in the year so they're "ready", I'm gonna sic Beendare on him!!!

Hope to see some of you guys there. I guarantee if you don't cheat, you will feel the pressure in this competition! I've folded like a taco at least one day in this challenge the last two years.

https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/2019-cold-bow-challenge.125038/
I am excited to try this out. Not having much experience will be interesting but hopefully my practice up to the challenge pays off. Looks like i need to grab some broadheads and post a couple of more times lol (y)
 

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Most people online lie, especially forums. If I selectively picked my best groups, I could show you softball size groups at 60 every time I shoot. Realistically I’m probably in the 1” per 10 yards group. I don’t ever measure groups though. I shoot a lot because I like to kill things. I’m not a paper or foam puncher.


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Here's the announcement for the 2019 Cold Bow Challenge.

If anyone asks me if we can do it later in the year so they're "ready", I'm gonna sic @Beendare on him!!!

Hope to see some of you guys there. I guarantee if you don't cheat, you will feel the pressure in this challenge! I've folded like a taco at least one day in this challenge the last two years.

https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/2019-cold-bow-challenge.125038/

And I thought my job was to hand out Mulligans....ok, I guess not then. /grin
 

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I have shot off and on for 15 years with hunting rigs. I agree that I get discouraged seeing other's groups, but I remind myself how much I put in. I know how proficient I need to be at realistic yardages (30ish for deer). I have days I can keep them tight, but if I am keeping all arrows within a kill zone size on a deer I feel comfortable hunting. Probably the best thing that helped me this year was shooting a slider and stretching the yardages to 70-90. Feels like poking the arrow in the target with my hand when I shoot at 20.
 
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I have shot off and on for 15 years with hunting rigs. I agree that I get discouraged seeing other's groups, but I remind myself how much I put in. I know how proficient I need to be at realistic yardages (30ish for deer). I have days I can keep them tight, but if I am keeping all arrows within a kill zone size on a deer I feel comfortable hunting. Probably the best thing that helped me this year was shooting a slider and stretching the yardages to 70-90. Feels like poking the arrow in the target with my hand when I shoot at 20.
Yea I just got a slider myself. Still messing with my pins a tad getting them dialed in just right.

Going to do total archery challenge in May. Should be fun getting some farther shooting in. Hopefully I dont lose too many arrows.

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Some good advice above, I still consider myself a beginner after 7 years, this year I took it upon myself to do my own tuning and work on my bow, found my bow was pretty far outside of spec.

I re-served my center serving, re-timed my rest cable, tied in nocking points, d loop, and set my rest all to factory specs.

I find myself getting frustrated or stressed out when shooting and realize that I am death gripping the bow and my groups are terrible, when I focus on proper grip and form and relax my groups tightened up. I shoot at 1” circles in my basement at 14 yards and can hit them 9-10 shots...

That’s been my process this winter and for the first time I can consistently shoot 1-1.5” groups at 20 and often have all 3 arrows touching

Going to start stretching it out now to be ready for the cold bow challenge...
 

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I consider myself efficient when I am putting Broadheads in a 3-4” group. Some years that is at 50 yards some it’s at 80. Depends on how much I shoot leading up to season. I am not happy if I can’t consistnatly shoot a 4” group at 60.

This is a typical 80 yard group for me when I’m shooting well. They aren’t always right on the dot but I’m happy to be able to keep consistent form. I typically don’t adjust my aiming point after the first shot because I want to check my grouping at long distance. DC58C035-8833-4609-B391-30E9C1927C65.jpeg
 

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Ive busted too many arrows (fletchings and nocks) when shooting shorter distances (20-30) so i try to pick different spots on the target, but once I am past that I agree that the 1" per 10 yards is a good thing for most.
 
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