Average cost of a Moose hunt

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Moose

Moose are the largest living member of the deer family (Cervidae). Four subspecies are found in Canada: the Alaska/Yukon moose (Alces alces gigas), the shiras m...
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Hey Ed, you there? I know you dont get out much. You down in the basement today?
 
I went to school a long time ago to be a wildlife biologist. I don't currently work in that profession anymore. During that time I learned there people that are lumpers and splitters as far as wildlife species go.

There are 4 named scientific moose populations in North America. Though there are probably 8 or 10 actual varieties of subspecies of moose in North America. Moose are bigger the farther north and farther west you go. Moose in the Northern Rockies are smaller than moose in Canada. Moose in Alaska and the Yukon are the biggest in the Western Hemisphere, but maybe not the world. There are some huge moose in Kamchatka.

Approximate ranges of 8 subspecies of moose worldwide. A. a. a. = A. a. alces , A. a. p . = A. a . pfizenmayeri , A. a. c . = A. a. cameloides , A. a. b . = A. a. burturlini , A. a. g . = A. a. gigas , A. a. an . = A. a. andersoni , A. a. s . = A. a. shirasi , A. a. am. = A. a. americana , * = introduced population in Newfoundland. ​


Globally there is one moose, and zoologist split those moose into a bunch of categories based on the way they look and their size. Does it really matter? For those that think so they are;
There are moose in the Russia, the former Russian republics, China, Mongolia, and all across northern Europe. Then they start over again in North America. Moose in far Eastern Asia across the water from Alaska are similar to the moose in the Yukon and Alaska. SOME of our moose here in Europe don't really have palms, but just big fingers.

Are you a lumper or a splitter? I guess it depends on that.

SCI has different delineations on where the subspecies lines are than the Boone and Crocket club. I think this is because the B&C don't want to spend a bunch of time re-sorting their books.

Hey Bill, "my polar bear from Hudson Bay" qualifies for a southern polar bear record book now.

Or hey Janis "we have to pay more to hunt in this region of BC because those moose are really similar to the Alaska-Yukon moose" but cheaper.

Most of these changes are scientific, but not necessary. They only serve those folks who get ate up about collecting every animal on the ark.

it is easy to get emotional about and easy to ignore.

The average casual observer in your den will not know the difference between a moose from Newfoundland and a similar sized moose from Wyoming or Sweden.

There was a taxidermist in Casper that used to bring all his trophies to one of the Supermarkets during hunting season. There were tons of stuff in there. High Altai Argalis and a bunch of stuff that never got picked up. Most people who were not hunters or wildlife biologist thought the Mongolian sheep were bighorns. They are almost twice as big as bighorns, if you have ever seen taxidermy of them or the real thing.
 
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Certainly less than $1000. This biggest expense is the processing when I go that route, other than that, about $100-200 of gas to get to my area.
 
Mojave said:
I went to school a long time ago to be a wildlife biologist. I don't currently work in that profession anymore. During that time I learned there people that are lumpers and splitters as far as wildlife species go.

There are 4 named scientific moose populations in North America. Though there are probably 8 or 10 actual varieties of subspecies of moose in North America. Moose are bigger the farther north and farther west you go. Moose in the Northern Rockies are smaller than moose in Canada. Moose in Alaska and the Yukon are the biggest in the Western Hemisphere, but maybe not the world. There are some huge moose in Kamchatka.

Approximate ranges of 8 subspecies of moose worldwide. A. a. a. = A. a. alces , A. a. p . = A. a . pfizenmayeri , A. a. c . = A. a. cameloides , A. a. b . = A. a. burturlini , A. a. g . = A. a. gigas , A. a. an . = A. a. andersoni , A. a. s . = A. a. shirasi , A. a. am. = A. a. americana , * = introduced population in Newfoundland. ​


Globally there is one moose, and zoologist split those moose into a bunch of categories based on the way they look and their size. Does it really matter? For those that think so they are;
There are moose in the Russia, the former Russian republics, China, Mongolia, and all across northern Europe. Then they start over again in North America. Moose in far Eastern Asia across the water from Alaska are similar to the moose in the Yukon and Alaska. SOME of our moose here in Europe don't really have palms, but just big fingers.

Are you a lumper or a splitter? I guess it depends on that.

SCI has different delineations on where the subspecies lines are than the Boone and Crocket club. I think this is because the B&C don't want to spend a bunch of time re-sorting their books.

Hey Bill, "my polar bear from Hudson Bay" qualifies for a southern polar bear record book now.

Or hey Janis "we have to pay more to hunt in this region of BC because those moose are really similar to the Alaska-Yukon moose" but cheaper.

Most of these changes are scientific, but not necessary. They only serve those folks who get ate up about collecting every animal on the ark.

it is easy to get emotional about and easy to ignore.

The average casual observer in your den will not know the difference between a moose from Newfoundland and a similar sized moose from Wyoming or Sweden.

There was a taxidermist in Casper that used to bring all his trophies to one of the Supermarkets during hunting season. There were tons of stuff in there. High Altai Argalis and a bunch of stuff that never got picked up. Most people who were not hunters or wildlife biologist thought the Mongolian sheep were bighorns. They are almost twice as big as bighorns, if you have ever seen taxidermy of them or the real thing.
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i may add that you find the alaska/yukon moose as well in NWT especially in the Mackenzie.
 
I got home from BC yesterday. Gas and three hotel nights split two ways plus tags, tax, tips, and a two on one hunt for 8 days I was in exactly 11k.

My partner killed, I didn’t
 

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on a side note i wont consider trophy book whichever is as a good information related to specy. there is no such stone sheep in the yukon and the fannin is not a stone sheep except for record book.
 
CRJR45 said:
Enough arguing already , JEEEZ , you guys are like little kids . Back to the OP


PS! Don't make me shut the interweb down !
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Seriously if you guys want to argue like a couple middle school girls PM, text or call each other. You’re not adding anything constructive to this thread.
 
15K is about 1/2 price these days and I’d be suspect while booking for that price if it’s fully guided.
 
FAAFO said:
SCI? Really? If you’re trying to use the SCI farm book to prove a point you’ve lost the argument…
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And you are replying to this why? Are you looking for a moose hunt? Are you saying no Shiras moose north of the US border? Exactly what are you wanting to accomplish? If you see my original post, i was trying to help the OP.
 
FAAFO said:
You’re trying to help the guy by bringing up an outfitter that doesn’t have a website, doesn’t respond and no info on the internet? Then you try to use a recordbook that takes genetically modified, drugged up pets as records to prove your point?

To answer your question read my other post above about imaginary lines. But I’m guessing the stack of 52 is missing a few.
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Not familiar with high fence moose hunts in North America. Where are you seeing this?

Have you ever read a SCI record book?

There are separate categories for "high fence (estate)" animals and wild animals. I don't know why people lie to themselves about an organization they know nothing about. Same as archery, same as muzzleloader.

Even when there are not separate categories, all estate animals are marked with an asterisk.
 
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