Arrow Squaring

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Where have all the arrow squaring devices gone? I bought a Carbon Express arrow squaring device because I liked the simplicity of the design, but none of the bushings fit my FMJs. I’m looking for alternatives but nowhere I have looked have the g5, the lumenok or any other squaring device in stock. There are some homemade jobbers on eBay, but I don’t know if I trust the machining prowess of random Joe Citizen. I would just make one, but I don’t trust my own machining prowess for that level of precision. Anyone have insight to the shortage of squaring devices?
 
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Where have all the arrow squaring devices gone? I bought a Carbon Express arrow squaring device because I liked the simplicity of the design, but none of the bushings fit my FMJs. I’m looking for alternatives but nowhere I have looked have the g5, the lumenok or any other squaring device in stock. There are some homemade jobbers on eBay, but I don’t know if I trust the machining prowess of random Joe Citizen. I would just make one, but I don’t trust my own machining prowess for that level of precision. Anyone have insight to the shortage of squaring devices?
I have used a lot of them, including some 3D printed jobs. The best is firenock APS. It's expensive but so worth it. You can order the super spinner wheels and have an arrow spinner too.

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motts

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That's weird; I can't imagine why they would all be sold out. I've thought about rigging something up with an arrow spinner and an aluminum try square or swanson speed square if I had to, but, thankfully, my G5 and F.A.S.T. are still going strong.
 

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I have used a lot of them, including some 3D printed jobs. The best is firenock APS. It's expensive but so worth it. You can order the super spinner wheels and have an arrow spinner too.

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Another vote for the Firenock APS.
 

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How do you make one and ensure the face is square? No way I could accomplish that. If the face isn't true square you defeat the purpose don't you?

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How do you make one and ensure the face is square? No way I could accomplish that. If the face isn't true square you defeat the purpose don't you?

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You can make one I with a block of wood and a drill press but only if your drill is 110% plumb/square/true. My experience is Most home shop presses aren’t this precise and if it’s not you aren’t any better off than not squaring at all.
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How do you make one and ensure the face is square? No way I could accomplish that. If the face isn't true square you defeat the purpose don't you?

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Simple process with a accurate chop saw and a carpenters square.

it works best with a good quality chunk of hardwood plywood, just glue and clamp. This one pictured is about 22 years old- works like a champ.BACBF972-7198-4C0B-8C60-522D659EEF84.jpeg

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Thanks for the picture @Beendare, I’ve been contemplating making one for myself (I can see imperfections in some of my arrows) and noticed the same thing with all the online stuff...all out of stock. I had the same concerns as @jmez of not accomplishing anything without absolute perfections. But ima give it a whirl, have plenty of scrap wood around the house to use up. Did you cut a groove in the sections the arrow is resting on? Obviously making them the same depth? Or a tiny slit should be enough to keep it in place and keep it straight. What grit sandpaper? More fine the better I assume, say 220 or more fine?
 

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Alot of stuff is delayed for resupply due to COVID-19. I ordered a arrow saw (with squaring device) and it is expected in stock May 5. We will see.
 

Beendare

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Thanks for the picture @Beendare, I’ve been contemplating making one for myself (I can see imperfections in some of my arrows) and noticed the same thing with all the online stuff...all out of stock. I had the same concerns as @jmez of not accomplishing anything without absolute perfections. But ima give it a whirl, have plenty of scrap wood around the house to use up. Did you cut a groove in the sections the arrow is resting on? Obviously making them the same depth? Or a tiny slit should be enough to keep it in place and keep it straight. What grit sandpaper? More fine the better I assume, say 220 or more fine?


if I was making another one of these....I would cut the bottom piece long and put all of the 45 deg wedges on the back side of the end piece. I would also make that back piece and the whole thing a little bigger wider- easier to get accurate squaring. Put that backing piece on first....easier to get that perfect using the whole length of the plywood.

Cut all of your pieces with a table saw and chop saw confirming the blade is dead on. You can cut it with a skill saw...but jig up a guide as you want those sides of the bottom block perfect so you can square off of them.

Pre drill holes in base for screws, then glue all of the pieces when you screw it....confirming that back piece is dead nuts square. I would then clamp it while the glue dries so it doesn't move.

I filed the grooves. I filed a little...then checked with a square, then filed some more. You could mount rollers....but its going to be a little tougher getting those dead nuts square.

With all of the materials it takes less than an hour to make on of these....pretty easy. I use 320 sandpaper....but 220 works too. You can hold the chamfer stone Easton gives you with the Axis against the backing and it gives you perfect alignment vs trying to hold the arrow plumb and winging it.


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Thanks @Beendare. I also contemplated just getting an arrow spinner (since I don’t have one and would like one), secure a square bump board on the edge of the base of what you have. Then I could just use the arrow spinner for the arrow. Obviously would need to ensure it is all square etc.
 

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The Firenock spinner and square setup is worth every penny if you really like building arrows.

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I'm thinking about running their fletching jig if I can figure out all the different pieces I need.🤦I studied his charts forever just figuring out which lighted nock components I needed.
 

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I'm thinking about running their fletching jig if I can figure out all the different pieces I need.I studied his charts forever just figuring out which lighted nock components I needed.
The Firenock one? I used to have a couple of his fletching jigs when I had my archery shop. The laser vane alignment is pretty slick. You can definitely nerd out with his equipment. Don't ever call Dorge unless you have a lot of time to spend with him on the phone.

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