Antis at it again......

[Beendare]

Attacking hunting. Hat tip to my buddy Javan for sending this over

IDAHO ORDERED TO DESTROY ELK, WOLF DATA
Last week, a judge ruled that the data Idaho collected on elk and wolves within the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness through GPS collars was gathered illegally since the use of any aircraft is prohibited within the wilderness area; biologists used a helicopter to locate and collar the animals. Because of this, U.S. District Court Judge B. Lynn Winmill has ordered the data to be destroyed.

In the 24-page ruling, Winmill acknowledged the unique nature of the case, but noted that “the only remedy that will directly address the ongoing harm is an order requiring destruction of the data,” according to The Associated Press.

Not only do the antis contribute NOTHING to wildlife...but then they hinder the professionals at every turn. Of course they want data destroyed as it backs up the fact wolves are devastating the elk population.

Jack Nicholsens famous line in "A few Good men" comes to mind.


Idaho ordered to destroy elk, wolf data | goHUNT

 

[Minnesotamulisha]

Wow.

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[cuerro viejo]

Aka the study shows that it wolves greatly reduced elk populations.....

 

[Superkodiak38]

Three S's--- shoot, shovel and shut up

 

[Schaaf]

Three S's--- shoot, shovel and shut up

This shit doesn't help our cause. Stop shooting holes in our boat.

 

[tipsntails7]

Attacking hunting. Hat tip to my buddy Javan for sending this over



Not only do the antis contribute NOTHING to wildlife...but then they hinder the professionals at every turn. Of course they want data destroyed as it backs up the fact wolves are devastating the elk population.

Jack Nicholsens famous line in "A few Good men" comes to mind.


Idaho ordered to destroy elk, wolf data | goHUNT

While I think destroying that data is horseshit as it's already been collected and no one is going to be prosecuted with the data, but Idaho fish and game and USFS needs to be better, it sounds like they shit the bed when it comes to the actual process.

Red tape and the BS that goes along with trying to manage wolves is getting way out of hand. I have no idea how someone can view this data as a detriment...


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[airlocksniffer]

They flew a helicopter into the wilderness illegally. Not sure what the problem that they have to destroy the data. News flash-I hunt elk in wolf country every year and there are a lot of elk. Not to mention we may need those anti's on our side if we hope to save our public land heritage. Strange bedfellows indeed....

 

[D_Eightch]

Maybe we should just have a rokslide get together and go smoke a few packs

 

[Mark]

Three S's--- shoot, shovel and shut up

Fight Club Rules:

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

 

[Bubblehide]

There are exception to almost everything. For example, most generally think that it is illegal to take another human life. However there is justifiable homicide. Generally, it is illegal to fly into a wilderness area, yet it is considered perfectly legal for rescue and search operations. My guess is that the Judges obvious mistake in his/her ruling will be won upon appeal.

 

[Superkodiak38]

It's like the Judge applied a criminal statute to a civil litigation. If you go somewhere you shouldn't and gather evidence, the evidence is inadmissible is the parallel I am drawing here. Judges have opinions and agenda's like everyone else and they are fallible like everyone else. It would be interesting to see if it is appealed if it's upheld. No matter how the information was obtained it's the accuracy of the data that's important. I don't think wolves have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" but I am sure some ACLU attorney would file something on their behalf.

 

[7mag.]

Aren't there like 21 air strips in the Frank Church?

 

[slick]

What an absolute waste of time and money.


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[dotman]

It's like the Judge applied a criminal statute to a civil litigation. If you go somewhere you shouldn't and gather evidence, the evidence is inadmissible is the parallel I am drawing here. Judges have opinions and agenda's like everyone else and they are fallible like everyone else. It would be interesting to see if it is appealed if it's upheld. No matter how the information was obtained it's the accuracy of the data that's important. I don't think wolves have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" but I am sure some ACLU attorney would file something on their behalf.

I would hope they would Appral this.

 

[tipsntails7]

Aren't there like 21 air strips in the Frank Church?

I could have sworn there was at least 1 outfit that still flew in and out. Maybe grandfathered in?


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[406]

What an absolute waste of time and money.


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This

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[elkyinzer]

I could have sworn there was at least 1 outfit that still flew in and out. Maybe grandfathered in?


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There are many airstrips...that's what had me wondering. We actually saw a collared cow in Central ID this year. I assume they needed a special permit of some sort from the feds they did not obtain, and for that, blame them for making a stupid mistake. Gotta dot your i's and cross your t's. I read up on the study and thought wolves were kind of peripheral to it, so I'm a bit confused why the antis got involved. They were trying to figure out where the elk summered and what their migration routes were by collaring them on winter range.

A native of the area told me an interesting perspective. He said when the wolves first came the elk were destroyed because they quite literally didn't know how to defend themselves. Their defensive strategies had disappeared over the years there were no wolves. As time has marched on, the survivors started living in steeper hellholes and began defending their calves similar to how moose do. Made sense, and we certainly see elk in the area.

 

[slick]

Could have also been doing a study concurrent to their focus study (elk) possibly seeing how migration affects wolves seasonal movements also? Dunno.

All I know is that the antis are technically shooting themselves in the foot with this in my opinion. If they don't want wolves shot, and the study (data) would have proven there weren't enough wolves to offer a season then these wolves will be hunted anyways. It's mind boggling to me that people would want that data thrown away if they love woofs so much.


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[NoWiser]

Every winter they fly over the BWCA Wilderness in Minnesota to count moose. I wonder if the anti's will try to stop that? Unlikely.

 

[tipsntails7]

Every winter they fly over the BWCA Wilderness in Minnesota to count moose. I wonder if the anti's will try to stop that? Unlikely.

Do they land?


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