Ahh Oregon

[541hunter]

Its commendable you defend your wife and a small % of the state, but the Oregon statistics tell a different story, some highlights;

Oregon is ranked 44th to 45th in the nation for K-12 education and has been cited as having one of the worst education systems in the country.

The system has faced enrollment declines post-pandemic and ranks in the bottom ten nationally for overall quality, with low graduation rates and high chronic absenteeism.

Recent data indicates that Oregon elementary and middle school students scored lower in reading and math than in any other state when adjusted for demographics
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^ Pretty bad
Now, is that totally due to them going Woke- of course not but many years ago they weren’t that bad.

I very aware of the statistics and agree with you that Oregon’s education system is broken. And on a state level some liberal policies are driving it. However it much more nuanced than “woke” policies. For example, for capital infrastructure projects, a the school district must fund a large portion of the project through funding mechanisms like bonds and the state can then give matching funds. I live in a very conservative county that refuses to pass a bond and hasn’t in decades resulting in schools in severe disrepair. A great example is with the current warming trend classrooms are now seeing temps in the 90s in May and June. The last bond had a carve out to update or install HVAC in classrooms that didn’t have it. The most common argument I heard was “well we didn’t have that growing up, they don’t need that either”. I can’t blame woke politics for this.

 

[DRP]

Unfortunately Oregon is like most Blue states, the populous lives in one small corner and out votes the rest of the state. We have 36 counties, 9 vote blue and 27 vote red. I don't think this measure will pass this time but if they keep bringing it up eventually it might.

 

[Swamp Fox]

Don't really know. We moved here for work in 1998 and it has been a $hithole since then at least.

Don't beat yourselves up too bad ...

Correlation is not causation.




(Stick to that story.)

 

[NRA4LIFE]

Don't beat yourselves up too bad ...

Correlation is not causation.




(Stick to that story.)

Yeah, we don't. When our freezers are full of salmon, crab, halibut, ling and black cod, rock fish, razor clams, deer, elk, moose and what not, life seems OK.

 

[Beendare]

Yeah, we don't. When our freezers are full of salmon, crab, halibut, ling and black cod, rock fish, razor clams, deer, elk, moose and what not, life seems OK.

Yep, make the most of it....and even in these liberal hell holes it's possible to make a great life.

 

[khart_6882]

When did OR and WA get more progressive than California... Its crazy.

It’s a crazy contest where everyone loses

 

[OregonSteeler]

This measure would cripple the cattle, ranching, outfitting, and other industries. The ranching community in particular have some serious dollars and a lot of incentive to make this Bull$hit (pun intended) go away. If you relly dig deep into how many other industries would be negatively affected by this passing;.I'm cautiously hopeful and optimistic that it should never pass. Strength in money!

Please please please do have me eat my words....

 

[khart_6882]

Is the milking of cows considered abuse under this bill? Tillamook cheese is made in tillamook Oregon

 

[Turkeytider]

This is what we are up against. I expect something similar in Colorado in the near future based on the path we are on. These people will never stop.

I’m surprised that Colorado hasn’t decided to quit pussyfooting around and just made a serious effort to ban private ownership of firearms in the state, Constitution be damned.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

I’m surprised that Colorado hasn’t decided to quit pussyfooting around and just made a serious effort to ban private ownership of firearms in the state, Constitution be damned.

That is definitely the path we are on. They another step in that direction every year.

 

[sneaky]

Right away, jail.


Jail.


Believe it or not, jail.

Straight to jail

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[repins05]

Food for thought

2024 Presidential Election

Oregon Blue 55.3% to Red 41%

Montana Red 58.4% to Blue 38.5%

Idaho Red 66.9% to 30.4%

Washington Blue 57.2% to Red 39%

 

[Smokey Bear]

Food for thought

2024 Presidential Election

Oregon Blue 55.3% to Red 41%

Montana Red 58.4% to Blue 38.5%

Idaho Red 66.9% to 30.4%

Washington Blue 57.2% to Red 39%

I’m still hungry.

 

[Mr.Ktm]

saying “I’ll just move” is a slippery slope imo

We need to fight to protect our rights. The last 10 yrs all states in the west are becoming more blue. “Just moving” is only going to buy you 10-15 years before your new state starts up with more crazy ideas. We need to stand up and fight these head on, not just roll over and ignore it. Our kids and their future children deserve hunting/outdoor opportunities, and it’d be great if they could do it in the same woods we got to do it in

Also, we all complain (I’m guilty too) of our woods being overcrowded with hunters. What do you think will happen if they actually close a whole state down to hunting?

 

[Beendare]

saying “I’ll just move” is a slippery slope imo

We need to fight to protect our rights. The last 10 yrs all states in the west are becoming more blue. “Just moving” is only going to buy you 10-15 years before your new state starts up with more crazy ideas. We need to stand up and fight these head on, not just roll over and ignore it. Our kids and their future children deserve hunting/outdoor opportunities, and it’d be great if they could do it in the same woods we got to do it in

Yeah, we need to fight...but we need to take the high road and do it in a respectful way with facts. The facts are on our side.

Society has gone way down hill in this respect...and it's on both sides.

I think we need to start with Schools. Heck, the radical Antifa types are pushing their agenda in schools and Colleges cranking out these kids that are so disconnected from where their food comes from and the real world effects of Communism- it's crazy. They have no idea what real Fascism looks like- HINT; Nazi's in the 1930's and 1940's...

A good start would be a program that details what farmers and ranchers have to actually go through to get food on our tables.

 

[Sawitrightoff]

A good start would be a program that details what farmers and ranchers have to actually go through to get food on our tables.

That in itself explains some of the issues of people’s opinions. Farmers and ranchers in most of the eastern half of the country, are creating that food on the table from their own land, while farmers and ranchers in a lot of the West are paying a token fee to graze their cattle on the U.S. taxpayers’s federal land. No wonder they have no sympathy for those in the libtard states.

 

[NRA4LIFE]

Are Oregonians going to stop eating meat if this passes? I'm guessing no. Hypocrites.

 

[roosiebull]

I live in Oregon. We have contemplated moving for several years. I have always told my wife eventually Oregon will pass a law that will in essence force us to move. Its not if its when.

I absolutely love what this state has to offer (potentially) but if we can’t find a way to change the trajectory, I will be bailing at some point. I’ve always said it’s the best state in the country, but we are crippled with bad governance, it’s truly a shame, we have everything

We are planning to move eventually, but I can’t bring myself to do it until something happens that changes my way of life. My biggest problem is that I’ve worked on the ocean my whole life, so starting a brand new career is a daunting idea. I’m not that worried about it though, I will never lack effort

 

[PLhunter]

I think the violations to the first and fourth amendments that are happening in this country are waking up some Oregon folks to the benefit of the second.

The anti anything animal ballot measure isn’t coming from politicians nor did the measure that passed. Ballot box politics needs to go period. The animal rights one is dead in the water though.