Ahh Oregon

Its commendable you defend your wife and a small % of the state, but the Oregon statistics tell a different story, some highlights;

Oregon is ranked 44th to 45th in the nation for K-12 education and has been cited as having one of the worst education systems in the country.

The system has faced enrollment declines post-pandemic and ranks in the bottom ten nationally for overall quality, with low graduation rates and high chronic absenteeism.

Recent data indicates that Oregon elementary and middle school students scored lower in reading and math than in any other state when adjusted for demographics
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^ Pretty bad
Now, is that totally due to them going Woke- of course not but many years ago they weren’t that bad.

I very aware of the statistics and agree with you that Oregon’s education system is broken. And on a state level some liberal policies are driving it. However it much more nuanced than “woke” policies. For example, for capital infrastructure projects, a the school district must fund a large portion of the project through funding mechanisms like bonds and the state can then give matching funds. I live in a very conservative county that refuses to pass a bond and hasn’t in decades resulting in schools in severe disrepair. A great example is with the current warming trend classrooms are now seeing temps in the 90s in May and June. The last bond had a carve out to update or install HVAC in classrooms that didn’t have it. The most common argument I heard was “well we didn’t have that growing up, they don’t need that either”. I can’t blame woke politics for this.
 
This measure would cripple the cattle, ranching, outfitting, and other industries. The ranching community in particular have some serious dollars and a lot of incentive to make this Bull$hit (pun intended) go away. If you relly dig deep into how many other industries would be negatively affected by this passing;.I'm cautiously hopeful and optimistic that it should never pass. Strength in money!

Please please please do have me eat my words....
 
Is the milking of cows considered abuse under this bill? Tillamook cheese is made in tillamook Oregon
 
This is what we are up against. I expect something similar in Colorado in the near future based on the path we are on. These people will never stop.
I’m surprised that Colorado hasn’t decided to quit pussyfooting around and just made a serious effort to ban private ownership of firearms in the state, Constitution be damned.
 
I’m surprised that Colorado hasn’t decided to quit pussyfooting around and just made a serious effort to ban private ownership of firearms in the state, Constitution be damned.
That is definitely the path we are on. They another step in that direction every year.
 
Food for thought

2024 Presidential Election

Oregon Blue 55.3% to Red 41%

Montana Red 58.4% to Blue 38.5%

Idaho Red 66.9% to 30.4%

Washington Blue 57.2% to Red 39%
 
saying “I’ll just move” is a slippery slope imo

We need to fight to protect our rights. The last 10 yrs all states in the west are becoming more blue. “Just moving” is only going to buy you 10-15 years before your new state starts up with more crazy ideas. We need to stand up and fight these head on, not just roll over and ignore it. Our kids and their future children deserve hunting/outdoor opportunities, and it’d be great if they could do it in the same woods we got to do it in

Also, we all complain (I’m guilty too) of our woods being overcrowded with hunters. What do you think will happen if they actually close a whole state down to hunting?
 
saying “I’ll just move” is a slippery slope imo

We need to fight to protect our rights. The last 10 yrs all states in the west are becoming more blue. “Just moving” is only going to buy you 10-15 years before your new state starts up with more crazy ideas. We need to stand up and fight these head on, not just roll over and ignore it. Our kids and their future children deserve hunting/outdoor opportunities, and it’d be great if they could do it in the same woods we got to do it in
Yeah, we need to fight...but we need to take the high road and do it in a respectful way with facts. The facts are on our side.

Society has gone way down hill in this respect...and it's on both sides.

I think we need to start with Schools. Heck, the radical Antifa types are pushing their agenda in schools and Colleges cranking out these kids that are so disconnected from where their food comes from and the real world effects of Communism- it's crazy. They have no idea what real Fascism looks like- HINT; Nazi's in the 1930's and 1940's...

A good start would be a program that details what farmers and ranchers have to actually go through to get food on our tables.
 
A good start would be a program that details what farmers and ranchers have to actually go through to get food on our tables.
That in itself explains some of the issues of people’s opinions. Farmers and ranchers in most of the eastern half of the country, are creating that food on the table from their own land, while farmers and ranchers in a lot of the West are paying a token fee to graze their cattle on the U.S. taxpayers’s federal land. No wonder they have no sympathy for those in the libtard states.
 
I live in Oregon. We have contemplated moving for several years. I have always told my wife eventually Oregon will pass a law that will in essence force us to move. Its not if its when.
I absolutely love what this state has to offer (potentially) but if we can’t find a way to change the trajectory, I will be bailing at some point. I’ve always said it’s the best state in the country, but we are crippled with bad governance, it’s truly a shame, we have everything

We are planning to move eventually, but I can’t bring myself to do it until something happens that changes my way of life. My biggest problem is that I’ve worked on the ocean my whole life, so starting a brand new career is a daunting idea. I’m not that worried about it though, I will never lack effort
 
I think the violations to the first and fourth amendments that are happening in this country are waking up some Oregon folks to the benefit of the second.

The anti anything animal ballot measure isn’t coming from politicians nor did the measure that passed. Ballot box politics needs to go period. The animal rights one is dead in the water though.
 

Even the backers of measure to ban hunting, livestock in Oregon think it will fail​

Organizers submitted the final signatures for a ballot initiative to criminalize hunting and fishing in Oregon. Its own backers don’t think it has any chance of passing.

Animal rights activists want to effectively criminalize hunting, fishing and livestock husbandry and slaughtering in what could be Oregon’s only statewide initiative this fall.

It has not yet qualified to be on the November ballot — though it appears on track. On Thursday, organizers submitted their final batch of signatures to the Secretary of State’s Office, bringing the total to over 142,000 collected signatures.

But even the campaign’s own backers don’t think it’s likely to receive a majority “yes” vote, although they’re not giving up.

Initiative Petition 28, titled People for the Elimination of Animal Cruelty Exemptions, would extend legal protections to animals beyond just cats and dogs. Insects wouldn’t count since they are not considered animals under Oregon law.

The initiative would remove exceptions for hunting, fishing and livestock husbandry and slaughtering from the state’s animal abuse law.

It would also set up a transition fund to help ranchers, for instance, with financial assistance or seek training for some other job. And it would prohibit people from owning an animal if they have been convicted of animal abuse.

Oregon elected officials, recreational hunting, fishing and agriculture groups have been quick to denounce the campaign — although they largely don’t think it has any chance of passing.

“I think that any time you propose an idea that is such a minority position, it’s going to be labeled as extreme,” said David Michelson, one of the campaign’s chief petitioners and an animal rights and vegan advocate. “I think that this is something that, if we want to succeed in the future, it will help if we start asking for it now.”

Still, farm groups are taking it seriously, said Austin McClister, a spokesperson for the Oregon Farm Bureau.

“You know the saying, don’t argue with stupid. We’re being forced to argue with stupid right now,” McClister said. “This is a serious conversation because it affects families all across Oregon. If you’re a farmer and you participate in animal agriculture, that means you lose your livelihood. It’s a serious issue, and so we have to respond to it seriously.”

Bipartisan opposition

In June, Oregon House Democrats issued a unanimous letter opposing the initiative, but that hasn’t stopped state Republicans from trying to connect them to the issue.

Republican gubernatorial nominee state Sen. Christine Drazan called it an attack by Gov. Tina Kotek’s “allies on Oregon’s economy and our way of life.”

Kotek, a Democrat who’s up for reelection this upcoming fall, is clear on her position.

“I oppose it,” she said in a Facebook post. “Criminalizing activities like hunting and fishing would be wrong for Oregon. I know Tribal leaders, family farmers and ranchers and Oregonians across the state who care deeply about protecting our land, waters and wildlife. This petition does nothing to help them.”

In Oregon, citizen ballot initiatives need more than 117,173 signatures to qualify for the ballot. Organizers have far exceeded that requirement, with signatures mostly from the Portland metro area, but also from Salem, Corvallis, Ashland and Bend, Michelson said.

This is the third time organizers have tried to get this petition on the ballot. The first time, during the 2022 election cycle, organizers collected some 2,000 signatures. Then in 2024, they got roughly 40,000 signatures, Michelson said.

What has changed this time is the campaign is more organized and they have more money to spend.

They’ve received more than $300,000 in cash contributions and loans, according to state campaign finance records.

Unlikely funders

Some of that financial support has come from unlikely sources, such as a $35,000 contribution from a Leonid Postnov, a consultant from St. Petersburg, Russia, a billionaire Bitcoin investor, Owen Gunden, who contributed $25,000. And then there’s Amit Dhuleshia, an animal rights activist from California who contributed a $25,000 loan.

Michelson acknowledged some of the contributions seem odd at first glance.

“It seems more ominous than it is, I think, because [Postnov] is in Russia,” Michelson said. “But he is just the father of someone in Oregon who was a volunteer for the campaign.”

Michelson said he met Dhuleshia at a Buddhist monastery. And he met Gunden, who’s supported similar grassroots animal rights campaigns in other states, at a vegan and animal advocacy conference.

The campaign also received about $30,000 from the Craigslist Charitable Fund and at least $20,000 from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, better known as PETA.

Michelson, a teacher, has himself contributed over $30,000 of his own money to the campaign.

Though he doesn’t think the petition will pass if it makes it on the ballot, Michelson said, it least starts a conversation.

He compares the campaign to Oregon’s women’s suffrage movement, which went to the ballot six times until it finally passed in 1912, giving women the right to vote.

“Those organizers in their own writings and reflections of the movement, mentioned that simply forcing the conversation made it more likely to happen,” Michelson said. “So we want to do the same thing with animal rights. We want to start advocating for these legal protections specifically in the hopes that over time we will be able to both build a stronger base of supporters but also start to shift public opinion closer in this direction.”

Though organizers already have collected enough signatures to qualify, some are expected to be ruled ineligible and get tossed out. The Secretary of State’s office has until Aug. 2 to verify all the signatures and officially determine if the initiative will make it to the ballot.

About 15% of signatures have been rejected from ballot initiatives submitted in recent years, according to a spokesperson for the Oregon Secretary of State’s Office.

https://www.opb.org/article/2026/07/02/oregon-hunting-livestock-measure/
 
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