Aaaaaaaaand I killed another scope

[Formidilosus]

Never meant to imply that. I guess that's why typing on the internet gets taken wrongly often. You immediately get defensive for no reason if anyone questions your thoughts. I think its clear 1 scope broke and you admit it.

I did not get defensive. I want objective information. I am no fan of NF- I don’t use anything scope that they make for general hunting. It’s isn’t about NF, or Trijicon, or Leupold, or any other scope company. It’s about being intellectually honest. There are 4-5 posters that seem to be unable to use critical thought, reasoning, and logic with certain subjects.
I am supposed to be biased, arrogant, and incompetent- yet I don’t hunt with NF, Maven hasn’t made a scope worth a flip until the 1.2, Leupold Mark 4 M3A fixed powers are excellent, Leupold’s Mark 4 spotting scopes are probably the best field spotters for killing on the market, Zeiss finally made a scope that generally works, etc., etc.

I am not knowledgeable on Nightforce's bonding process and asked if " you are saying it is impossible for a zero shift to happen without lenses rattling?"

Impossible? No- nothing is truly 100% impossible. Unbelievably unlikely that 2x somehow didn’t get bonded, yet the lenses haven’t fallen out; or that those two somehow got toilet paper rolls for tubes…. Yes. So unlikely, that someone really should isolate what’s causing it, because one could take those odds to the lottery.

NXS’s and other NF’s, along with a few other scopes makes/models have a very specific failure mode, if/when they fail. They do not have large shifts and still work.

 

[PanhandlePilgrim]

Oh boy. I kicked the hornets nest here. I hope it hasn't been conceived that I am arguing that the scopes in fact failed and it wasn't an issue elsewhere. I will begin trouble shooting other avenues before sending it back because maybe there is an issue I am not seeing or maybe something I missed.
The 2 NXSs i haven't seen since elk season and have no idea on their status but I will be making some phone calls and seeing if we can get to the bottom of those as issues well. They likely could have been a loose mount. They aren't my rifles and I wasn't there when either we're mounted.

 

[Formidilosus]

Oh boy. I kicked the hornets nest here. I hope it hasn't been conceived that I am arguing that the scopes in fact failed and it wasn't an issue elsewhere. I will begin trouble shooting other avenues before sending it back because maybe there is an issue I am not seeing or maybe something I missed.

Not at all. It’s a perfect opportunity for all involved.

 

[Wrench]

I did not get defensive. I want objective information. I am no fan of NF- I don’t use anything scope that they make for general hunting.

Didn't you use a NF topped mrc to shoot the lion?

 

[Formidilosus]

Didn't you use a NF topped mrc to shoot the lion?

No sir. Minox.

 

[rbutcher1234]

do we put the rs1.2 in the same category of “it’s not losing zero unless it’s catastrophically broken?”

I enjoy the reticle very much, but I always used my NF 3-15 F1 before. I know that scope will break only after everything else has failed. Lol

 

[Formidilosus]

do we put the rs1.2 in the same category of “it’s not losing zero unless it’s catastrophically broken?”

No. I have only seen 4 or 5 used very hard- that is 3,000+ rounds and a lot of “abuse”, and only around 20-25 total used for at least 500 rounds. They have done well with no major issues, and for hunting and general rough use they have shown to be perfectly adequate, but it is highly doubtful that they are as ultimately as durable/reliable when taken to extremes.

I enjoy the reticle very much, but I always used my NF 3-15 F1 before. I know that scope will break only after everything else has failed. Lol

You have the most reliable scope make/model probably ever made.

 

[2buffalo]

Instead of making snarky comments or laughing emojis in almost every thread, why don’t you come shoot with us and show us how wrong and ignorant we are? There is a S2H course in February- it’s only a few hours from you; come for free, bring your rifles and show us what’s up.

Apparently I need to start making making sparky comments and laughing emojis...

 

[Formidilosus]

Apparently I need to start making making sparky comments and laughing emojis...

You’d actually show up instead of ignoring direct conversation.

 

[Castle Rock]

With regard to bonded lenses etc, that is a catastrophic failure for sure if they move, but wouldn’t small shifts be more likely to be an erector assembly issue?

 

[rclouse79]

It seems like the rifle would get a smoother ride strapped to your pack. That is what I do on my dirt bike.