A health revolution brewing?

[ddavis_1313]

Thanks for posting the replay. I was watching live, but missed a good bit. I personally hate the title of the replay, as IMHO "holistic" brings to mind someone who uses crystals and recommends plant-based diets, or that the panel doesn't include MDs including psychiatrists, etc. But that could just be one of my many "me problems."

Although I didn't see everything, Casey Means (~1:02 to 1:11:25 - not counting the Q&A) was pretty good (as was Chris Palmer). She ended (starting just before 1:10) with something along the lines of ~"this is so much more than a physical health care crisis. This is a spiritual crisis. We are choosing death over life. We are choosing darkness over light, for people and the planet, which are inextricably linked." She got a standing ovation.

I get what you mean by holistic, however, being a former Registered Nurse it is actually a great term to use when speaking of any kind of treatment. It’s takes a lot of sympathy and empathy to be a great nurse. You are dealing with other people when they are usually at their worst state and already not happy. Getting patients to smile and laugh is great medicine!

Holistic health - an approach to wellness that simultaneously addresses the physical, mental, emotional, social, and spiritual components of health.

The human body is interconnected and a disruption of one area can and will affect another. The best nurses I ever worked around including myself (be it very few)treated the patient in a holistic manner. It is the only way to achieve not only the fastest recovery but also achieve the highest level of patient interaction and compliance. Once we send them home it’s up to them to continue with their treatment. This could be continuing medication, bandage chances, rehab, or lifestyle changes such as dietary restrictions. The more information I can give an uneducated patient on a topic similar to sugar and carbohydrates (like high fructose corn syrup) and how it inflames the arteries over time increasing cardiovascular disease as well as over stimulation of pancreas to produce insulin which can leads to type 2 diabetes the more likely they will confirm and make the changes needed to be healthy. Sadly, almost all nurses are too distracted on BS or just don’t take the time to do one of the most important parts of their job which is patient teaching. They have to not only believe what you tell them but trust that you have their best interests in mind. You have to want the best for a complete stranger and they have to not just hear it but feel that as well.

Just my 2 cents on the holistic approach to medicine!


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[fwafwow]

Just my 2 cents on the holistic approach to medicine!

I have no problem with holistic medicine, and I agree with it. I just meant that for a title and so few words, it was not what I would have chosen. But I'm overly critical!

Thank you for your service!

 

[mt terry d]

Just skip to 1:44.

 

[fwafwow]

Just skip to 1:44.

Wow. I’m craving water too.

 

[BFR]

I’m a poster child for not eating healthy, love my bbq, cokes, occasionally an ice cream , but at my age so what. We travel a lot, only been home about 5 months in the last 3 years so it’s easier to grab and go. At home or in a location for an extended time we usually eat venison and fresh veggies so there is that.
I have 2 primary care doctors, a VA doctor and a private doctor. Every year I have 2 check ups. The difference is amazing, my VA doctor usually wants to do a wait and see approach or write a prescription, the other, if she sees something off refers me out to a specialist or requests additional tests. I depend on her for my health, the VA for my prescriptions or procedures that Medicare doesn’t cover.
Being a bonafide conspiracy theorist I think Covid was a test run that didn’t go as planned. I also remember that Bill Gates said we need to reduce our population and has bought a lot of farmland. Recently Harris also said if we reduce population kids would have cleaner water and air. Now , I’m on the downhill slope , maybe 10-12 years, but the 60 year olds would be the target group, make room for the worker bees and the brainwashed college kids.

 

[rodney482]

sick people is a trillion dollar business…..

2.7 Trillion per year in the US

 

[ddavis_1313]

sick people is a trillion dollar business…..

2.7 Trillion per year in the US

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[fwafwow]

I could probably more effectively say so via a meme:

for those who think the system is broken, let’s try to do something about it. I think this event, and the organization described below, is a good start. I have continued to work on this since the first time I posted about it. Daily. We would welcome any help.

Metabolic Revolution

Our Health, Our Right - We’re on a mission to spread awareness about the powerful healing that metabolic therapies can provide.

www.metabolicrevolution.org

 

[rodney482]

when was the last time your doctor offered up a natural medicine option?

 

[ddavis_1313]

I could probably more effectively say so via a meme:

for those who think the system is broken, let’s try to do something about it. I think this event, and the organization described below, is a good start. I have continued to work on this since the first time I posted about it. Daily. We would welcome any help.

Metabolic Revolution

Our Health, Our Right - We’re on a mission to spread awareness about the powerful healing that metabolic therapies can provide.

www.metabolicrevolution.org

Awesome! Just signed up and followed on both social media accounts!


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[fwafwow]

Awesome! Just signed up and followed on both social media accounts!


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Thank you.

Since I'm making the suggestion that folks consider getting involved (and IMHO a stark contrast to the US Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee level of transparency):

• I am only a volunteer, and I have donated, but I do not have any position.
• I have no business connection with anything or anyone related to the entity or movement, or really anything in the "space". I am a complete outsider. But the issue is like an ear-worm (the song you can't get out of your head).
• My primary potential conflict is with Mrs. fwafwow if she tires of the time I'm spending on this, or learns about the donations...

 

[Contendi]

Tinfoil hat time but I think the changes in our vaccines schedule for children may play a part. I was never a skeptic until COVID. Born in the early 90s, I got everything, then joined the military, took everything they mando'd up until the COVID shot. Something just didn't feel right, and that's when my wife and I started doing our own research on all of it.

A 2 year old can have up to 27 shots in today's schedule.. that's just wild. Why give a baby Hep B shots when they most likely won't be around needles or folks with that disease..

While active duty, 2 of my troops went to the ER after their second Moderna shot due to chest pain and light headedness. A close friend in his 30s got the shot and now has a chronic bradycardia and has a pace maker, before that he was a career FF/Medic. My other friend I served with got the shot, also early 30s, had a blood clot found and removed from his leg. My wife's close friend has 6 kids like us with 0 complications along the way, and when they started trying for another she had a few miscarriages. Both her and husband got the shot. At my last base, had an army neighbor young guy too..tried to hold out until the end but got the shot. Started having memory issues and was sad to see.

I could be completely wrong, but just make it make sense.

https://www.marinhealthcare.org/upload/public-meetings/2018-06-19-600-pm-mhd-community-health-seminar-vaccination/BRANCO_06192018_MGH%20Vaccine%20Presentation.pdf

 

[ddavis_1313]

Great podcast if anyone wants to dive in. 100% health related.


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[ddavis_1313]

Tinfoil hat time but I think the changes in our vaccines schedule for children may play a part. I was never a skeptic until COVID. Born in the early 90s, I got everything, then joined the military, took everything they mando'd up until the COVID shot. Something just didn't feel right, and that's when my wife and I started doing our own research on all of it.

A 2 year old can have up to 27 shots in today's schedule.. that's just wild. Why give a baby Hep B shots when they most likely won't be around needles or folks with that disease..

While active duty, 2 of my troops went to the ER after their second Moderna shot due to chest pain and light headedness. A close friend in his 30s got the shot and now has a chronic bradycardia and has a pace maker, before that he was a career FF/Medic. My other friend I served with got the shot, also early 30s, had a blood clot found and removed from his leg. My wife's close friend has 6 kids like us with 0 complications along the way, and when they started trying for another she had a few miscarriages. Both her and husband got the shot. At my last base, had an army neighbor young guy too..tried to hold out until the end but got the shot. Started having memory issues and was sad to see.

I could be completely wrong, but just make it make sense.

https://www.marinhealthcare.org/upload/public-meetings/2018-06-19-600-pm-mhd-community-health-seminar-vaccination/BRANCO_06192018_MGH%20Vaccine%20Presentation.pdf

You are barking up a tree full of squirrels on your assumptions. Our first child will arrive in January. No jab for me or my wife and we will NOT be adhering to the childhood jab schedule. Nor will we be feeding processed foods or sugary drinks with dyes in them…


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[mt terry d]

I am losing all tolerance for anyone who doesn't see and accept the obvious at this point.
The information is out there, has been out there for many years. But you won't
ever be spoon fed the truth. You need to do a little searching but not much. Or, as
ddavis has done, just look around. Ask around. And follow the $$$. How many times will one let a friend lie to them and keep believing? Yet with people we don't know , whose only real relationship with us is our $$>>their pockets, we'll continue to believe their lies, oh, because they're "experts". "Experts" is a relatively new concept. People used to just be knowledgeable on a topic but now you need to learn the proper narrative, repeat that narrative so you can get your license or degree or certification to get a job and if you deviate from that narrative they will pull your license, ruin your business, destroy your life.
It was just magnified during the scamdemic with doctors who brought reason to the table
and small business owners deemed "non-essential" while the big box stores remained open.

I had a youtube video years ago ( gone now, naturally) of a meeting of the CDC officials who vote on the use of vaccines. They discussed the testing (which was minimal) and voted almost unanimously to approve a certain vaccine. Someone then asked for a show of hands who would take that vaccine themselves or have a family member take it. Zero.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Our first child will arrive in January. No jab for me or my wife and we will NOT be adhering to the childhood jab schedule.

Good call. The effect of adjuvants (inflammatory compounds intentionally added to vaccines to trigger a response by the body's immune system) is real cause for concern, particularly the cumulative effect given the intensity of the recommended childhood vaccine schedule. None of my children (ages 5, 3, 1) have ever been touched by a needle, and all are in excellent health.

Congrats on the upcoming child. Assuming you'll be delivering at a hospital, read up on the medical interventions typically undertaken immediately after birth (i.e., Hep B shot, erythromycin eye cream, vitamin K shot) and figure out in advance how to opt out if you so desire. I don't know exactly how to go about opting out (all of my children have been delivered via midwife outside of a hospital), but the hospital will likely assume you want all the typical post-birth interventions unless you specifically decline in advance. And be prepared to push back if hospital staff tries to bully you into interventions you don't want (again, I have no firsthand experience with this but I've heard stories).

Nor will we be feeding processed foods or sugary drinks with dyes in them…

Also a good call. Feeding your children whole, natural, nourishing food is expensive and inconvenient but is absolutely the right choice. Also, breast milk (straight from the tap) is the best milk if your wife is able. Avoid formula if at all possible.

 

[ddavis_1313]

Good call. The effect of adjuvants (inflammatory compounds intentionally added to vaccines to trigger a response by the body's immune system) is real cause for concern, particularly the cumulative effect given the intensity of the recommended childhood vaccine schedule. None of my children (ages 5, 3, 1) have ever been touched by a needle, and all are in excellent health.

Congrats on the upcoming child. Assuming you'll be delivering at a hospital, read up on the medical interventions typically undertaken immediately after birth (i.e., Hep B shot, erythromycin eye cream, vitamin K shot) and figure out in advance how to opt out if you so desire. I don't know exactly how to go about opting out (all of my children have been delivered via midwife outside of a hospital), but the hospital will likely assume you want all the typical post-birth interventions unless you specifically decline in advance. And be prepared to push back if hospital staff tries to bully you into interventions you don't want (again, I have no firsthand experience with this but I've heard stories).


Also a good call. Feeding your children whole, natural, nourishing food is expensive and inconvenient but is absolutely the right choice. Also, breast milk (straight from the tap) is the best milk if your wife is able. Avoid formula if at all possible.

100% going the teet milk route!


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[ddavis_1313]

Great podcast if anyone wants to dive in. 100% health related.


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I just realized that I didn’t post a link to the podcast.

First, ignore the title to the podcast. It’s pretty misleading and not what you think when you read it.

I’m 30% of the way through and my mind is blown. I had a lot of the info in this podcast already through research, whistleblowers, and podcasts. This guy takes all of that info and fills in all the gaps.

Can’t recommend this podcast enough if you really want to know the details. I’ll warn you, what you think you know is surface level compared to how deep all of this goes….

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[Contendi]

You are barking up a tree full of squirrels on your assumptions. Our first child will arrive in January. No jab for me or my wife and we will NOT be adhering to the childhood jab schedule. Nor will we be feeding processed foods or sugary drinks with dyes in them…


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Good on you man and congrats on your first child! Mighty Mouse said a lot of great points and if there's one thing I can add, it's that if you're going the hospital route - you might receive a lot of pushback! Go in with a plan for you, wife, and baby, and be your wife's spokesperson when she's having contractions and post delivery.. I've experienced several OBs and nurses be a little pushy when my wife was vulnerable and I had to speak up about not wanting that drug for my wife or baby, or give my wife a few more minutes of rest please, or please come back when the baby is awake...etc. Obviously, life or death I'd let the pros handle it. But, after 6 kids with 2 home births and 4 hospital births (all natural, no drugs), we found what works best for my wife and stick to it.

Check out this documentary with your wife if you have time: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995061/

Not trying to go too TMI, but certain birthing positions that use gravity to their advantage can work. We've had OBs that were cool with it at least on the bed for cushion, and we've had others that were adamant to try and make my wife deliver on her back. Nope.

Good call. The effect of adjuvants (inflammatory compounds intentionally added to vaccines to trigger a response by the body's immune system) is real cause for concern, particularly the cumulative effect given the intensity of the recommended childhood vaccine schedule. None of my children (ages 5, 3, 1) have ever been touched by a needle, and all are in excellent health.

Congrats on the upcoming child. Assuming you'll be delivering at a hospital, read up on the medical interventions typically undertaken immediately after birth (i.e., Hep B shot, erythromycin eye cream, vitamin K shot) and figure out in advance how to opt out if you so desire. I don't know exactly how to go about opting out (all of my children have been delivered via midwife outside of a hospital), but the hospital will likely assume you want all the typical post-birth interventions unless you specifically decline in advance. And be prepared to push back if hospital staff tries to bully you into interventions you don't want (again, I have no firsthand experience with this but I've heard stories).


Also a good call. Feeding your children whole, natural, nourishing food is expensive and inconvenient but is absolutely the right choice. Also, breast milk (straight from the tap) is the best milk if your wife is able. Avoid formula if at all possible.

Man I'm happy to see this! Home births rock. My wife has delivered 2 and home and 4 in the hospital. Definitely felt some pushback in the hospital setting, though so long as mom and baby were OK, it was a good time.

 

[D S 319]

Joe Rogan with Brigham Buhler episode #2208 is worth listening to regarding a lot of this.