6 ARC or 6.5 Creed

[HairyScandinavian]

She is not going to be a long range shooter, so equipment and gear, including cartridge choice, that works close is good.

Since the 6X SWFA is sold out, how about a second choice on optics.

The trijicon huron 3-9x40 standard reticle is on sale at eurooptic right now. This seems like a decent option with a nice clean uber simple reticle.

Wife's 16" 6 ARC wears a 3-9x40 Huron and the reticle lines up perfectly at 100, 200, 300 yards at average altitude/temps. Wife has a self imposed 300 yard limit for the time being.
Edit: with 108gr M's.

 

[Diamondback]

To the OP, I would take a look at a Savage, Compact model, 20" barrel already threaded, already cerakoted, in 243 Win with 100gr Nosler Partitions, 90gr Accubond, or 90gr E-Tip and see what it likes. The reason for 243 Win = available commercial off the shelf ammo availability.

They have them in normal and compact models, adjustable stocks.

 

[rabbithuntr]

I’d look at the sauer 100 in 243. Better ergos and price (currently) than a tikka. Has a 1:10 twist which isn’t ideal for hand loading but for a 95 sst or 95 ballistic tip it would be good.

 

[UnckleBob]

I’d look at the sauer 100 in 243. Better ergos and price (currently) than a tikka. Has a 1:10 twist which isn’t ideal for hand loading but for a 95 sst or 95 ballistic tip it would be good.

I want to try a Sauer 100 but I am waiting for them to start threading their barrels like Ruger and Tikka are.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I want to try a Sauer 100 but I am waiting for them to start threading he barrels like Ruger and Tikka are.

That is a $150 job. As long as the base rifle price is low enough, then the fact that it is factory threaded is just a nice thing.


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[Tobe_B]

My wife has been shooting my 6arc in howa mini since I got it. She’s killed a pile of prairie dogs and a mule deer with it. It currently has my NX8 2.5-20 FFP on it since it was suppose to be my rifle. She loves it. I have a Hyperion on the end of it, it’s quiet enough I can shoot prairie dogs in my pastures with my horses standing next to me with no issues.


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[UnckleBob]

That is a $150 job. As long as the base rifle price is low enough, then the fact that it is factory threaded is just a nice thing.


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I have had a couple of barrels threaded and they turned out ok, but I like the factory to do it.

At current prices, adding in the $150 (plus the cost of my time) makes a threaded Tikka the more cost effective option. But, that's just me.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I have had a couple of barrels threaded and they turned out ok, but I like the factory to do it.

At current prices, adding in the $150 (plus the cost of my time) makes a threaded Tikka the more cost effective option. But, that's just me.

I’m having a couple of barrels cut by Silencer Central. The turnaround time seems far more reasonable than my local gunsmith. And since it’s a two-hour round trip to my closest good gunsmith, having the ability to ship the barreled actions off and get them back about three weeks later seems really reasonable. I will inspect the job when they get back and compare with the other thread jobs.


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[270quest]

Ill be taking my Howa carbon build 6 arc into the backcountry for mule deer and probably elk this year. 105 Berger Hybrids at 2740 ish FPS....Wont be shooting over 550-600 yards but also won't feel undergunned...

 

[Chris Bull Whacker]

A friend of the family has a New Mexico Resident elk tag. I knew she had the tag, but did not realize her situation surrounding the tag until today. The short version of the story without getting into it is that she needs a rifle, a bolt rifle. This will likely be the only rifle she ever buys.

The first thing that comes to mind is a 6ARC and a case of 108 ELDM ammo. The 6mm is legal everywhere and is a light recoiling practice round. What bolt rifles are chambered in 6 ARC. Scope choice is easy.

The second rifle that comes to mind is a tikka t3x in 6.5 creed.

I have a Howa Mini 6 arc. I love it, shoots great. I need to upgrade the stock, though.

 

[rookieforever33]

The saur 100 in 243 with the huron is something I've been considering adding to my collection. If a potential 300 yard shot on any animal was coming soon I wouldnt wait anymore.

 

[Packmansion]

Only rifle? Does not have reloading equipment? 6.5 creedmoor hands down. Don't get to fancy with the one rifle. 6.5 creedmoor ideally something threaded or that you plan on threading for a brake if she is recoil sensitive. 6 arc will likely last but creedmoor is so well established i wouldn't place bets. I would not go 243 win, the bullet options are not great for elk. Id definitely go 6 arc over 243 win. If you go 243 plan to handload and that would require a fast twist.

 

[coyotekilla]

Well the 6 arc and the 6.5 grendel is the comparable pair. That being said, my favorite in this class would be a 1:8 twist 243. If she's never gonna shoot varmits or pronghorn etc then the 6.5 creed

 

[Ajsomp]

243 tikka with 1:8 twist. Shoot hornady eldm/x, Winchester silver tip 95 gr NBT, or buy loaded ammo from UM or Copper creek with 103eldx or 108.

 

[coloradoan]

The mini action is cool but the Tikka is a better rifle than the Howa. You can get a Tikka compact with in 243 with a 1:8 twist and a threaded barrel for a good price if you shop around.

 

[TradLife406]

Anyone else think the 6.5 Creed has some bad recoil? I remember seeing a thread on here of a handful of guys saying this.

My Sig Cross is painful to shoot a lot.

I see the 243 being recommended. That'd be my buy.

I'd be curious to how a 6.5 creed tikka in a Rokstok would be. But that Sig is getting a 22 Creed pipe since my kids won't even shoot it because of the recoil.

 

[The Guide]

Anyone else think the 6.5 Creed has some bad recoil? I remember seeing a thread on here of a handful of guys saying this.

My Sig Cross is painful to shoot a lot.

I see the 243 being recommended. That'd be my buy.

I'd be curious to how a 6.5 creed tikka in a Rokstok would be. But that Sig is getting a 22 Creed pipe since my kids won't even shoot it because of the recoil.

Might be the Sig stock as different stocks transmit the recoil different. The two Tikkas in 6.5CM we have shoot very nicely and they are unsuppressed and unbraked non-threaded versions with 24" Stainless steel lite barrel. I also have a Howa 1500 6.5CM Carbon Stalker with the 22" light profile steel barrel that I find very comfortable to shoot. Is it 223 comfortable, no but I can easily wack steel at 500 to 1K and watch bullet splash on or off target for adjustments. A short barrel on 6.5CM with a stock that might not fit the best isn't one that would be the most fun to shoot.

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[Ajsomp]

Anyone else think the 6.5 Creed has some bad recoil? I remember seeing a thread on here of a handful of guys saying this.

My Sig Cross is painful to shoot a lot.

I see the 243 being recommended. That'd be my buy.

I'd be curious to how a 6.5 creed tikka in a Rokstok would be. But that Sig is getting a 22 Creed pipe since my kids won't even shoot it because of the recoil.

I’m my experience they aren’t fun to shoot in general (sig cross). I owned one in 6.5!-!: my buddy still owns it. Rokstok is pleasant to shoot - especially 6.5 and below.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Anyone else think the 6.5 Creed has some bad recoil? I remember seeing a thread on here of a handful of guys saying this.

My Sig Cross is painful to shoot a lot.

I see the 243 being recommended. That'd be my buy.

I'd be curious to how a 6.5 creed tikka in a Rokstok would be. But that Sig is getting a 22 Creed pipe since my kids won't even shoot it because of the recoil.

My 10# suppressed 6.5 CM Tikka with a Rokstok is a lamb.


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