6.5 creed magnum

[The Guide]

even better with a glass of wine.

It's almost like "bmxer" is back...

 

[R@crx37372]

A quick search led me to believe some here may not be familiar:

Meanwhile the rec room is getting wrecked with facts. Almost like its filled with emotional opinionated woke trans women

 

[ianpadron]

My main takeaway from this thread is that most Roksliders never took Physics 101.

 

[JohnJohnson]

My main takeaway from this thread is that most Roksliders never took Physics 101.

Unfortunately people having taken intro classes (like 10+ years ago) is a problem too.

"It's basic geometry!" - People saying higher scope mounts noticeably increase the affects of scope cant (it's not geometry at all)

"Drop-test's sample size is too low!" - People who took Intro to Statistics and don't know how anything works

"Equal and opposite reaction!" - People who took Physics 101 and don't understand how this stuff works either

 

[The Guide]

My main takeaway from this thread is that most Roksliders never took Physics 101.

My favorite part of PH101 was trajectory and figuring out why uphill/downhill shots have different shoot to distances even though you have a correct line of sight distance.

301 was kind of out in the weeds for me when it came to acoustic physics but it did show me about how gun shots travel through materials and really made me carry earplugs as an EDC item.

Jay

 

[omicron1792]

Meanwhile the rec room is getting wrecked with facts. Almost like its filled with emotional opinionated woke trans women

I’m not sure you have said one fact yet. Truly.

Bunch of anecdotes about fishing and meth hookers is all I see.

 

[WCB]

Again with the lack of reading comprehension and misstating what I said. Nowhere did I say that those energies are a requirement but you continueto do that because you cant counter the informationwith fact. Those are the well known recommended energies by multiple sources. You have yet to produce any for the contrary. If what you're doing works stick with it, but in my opinion your living in a very small operational windows with those choices. Why restrict yourself to shorter ranges and limited shot angles when there are more capable options?

OK...bullet construction. Ready GO!

 

[The Guide]

I’m not sure you have said one fact yet. Truly.

Bunch of anecdotes about fishing and meth hookers is all I see.

What I have found is that those with very little experience are the most vocal. Once you actually get into double digits kills on an animal and if you are actually breaking them down yourself (from kill site to kitchen) you find there is nothing mythical or extra special about any animal. None of them have "inch thick rut hardened hides" or "shoulders that deflect all but the toughest bullets". Just a sack of meat with some bones in it. Hardest part of killing an elk is finding it. The killing is easy. Put an expanding bullet in the vitals.

Jay

 

[Dan Carey]

My favorite part of PH101 was trajectory and figuring out why uphill/downhill shots have different shoot to distances even though you have a correct line of sight distance.

301 was kind of out in the weeds for me when it came to acoustic physics but it did show me about how gun shots travel through materials and really made me carry earplugs as an EDC item.

Jay

Up and down angles, what about east and west on those long shots.

 

[The Guide]

Up and down angles, what about east and west on those long shots.

That's all part of the equation since nothing is shot in way that drift (spin and wind) can't be factored. Even the direction the shot is fired in reliation to the earth's rotation is a factor but not really relevant to the distances game is generally shot at.

Jay

 

[R@crx37372]

OK...bullet construction. Ready GO!

Depends on what you're trying to do as far as bullet construction bullet. Lol. Open country and long range cup and core/match bullets. Heavy timber or somewhere that you're likely to take a quick shot at non optimal angles I'd say bonded or copper would be a better choice. I use both depending on the situation.

What I have found is that those with very little experience are the most vocal. Once you actually get into double digits kills on an animal and if you are actually breaking them down yourself (from kill site to kitchen) you find there is nothing mythical or extra special about any animal. None of them have "inch thick rut hardened hides" or "shoulders that deflect all but the toughest bullets". Just a sack of meat with some bones in it. Hardest part of killing an elk is finding it. The killing is easy. Put an expanding bullet in the vitals.

Jay

Putting an expanding bullet in the vitals isn't always that easy if its moving, variable winds or giving you bad angles for example. Hence needing enough energy to penetrate, expand and get to the vitals. There isnt always a perfectly stable rest or position for you to make a perfect shot from. Or, you may be hunting an area with other hunters nearby or where you dont have access to.
As an example hog hunting in Texas you can get away with a smaller caliber with lower energy because its fairly open and easy to track. In south carolina or Florida swamps, you better drop it where it stands or you won't recover it. One of the groups I hunt with has 8 hunters typically. Four of them used 223s none recoverd a hog. Meanwhile the other for using 308s or 6.8 spc all shot and recovered thoer hogs. Now the four previously using 223s all have brand new 6.8s and the difference in effect and wounding on hogs between them is dramatic. Now this may lean somewhat to your side of the argument. But the 6.8s seem to outperform the 308s with less energy using SSTs (130 ttsx is a different story). I personally shot multiple hogs multiple times with the 308 and 150 ssts, and every one of them ran and took multiple shots at fairly close range (less than 50 yards) My son was using his 6.8 and every hog folded immediately, then I used the 6.8 with the same effect. The 6.8 dropped two huge hogs (342lb& 390lb) in thier tracks with the exact same shot placement that the 308 didn't drop 200-250lb hogs. Possible bullet failure from too much energy and velocity? results vary sometimes in the real world....

 

[nm.otter]

Putting an expanding bullet in the vitals isn't always that easy if its moving, variable winds or giving you bad angles for example. Hence needing enough energy to penetrate, expand and get to the vitals.

Kinetic energy is irrelevant here. A tungsten slug has craploads of KE, but will pencil through the critter.

How much KE does an arrow have?