6.5 creed magnum

[nm.otter]

My first thought is that it will provide high pressure cases to neck down to 6 creed

Necking down is a bit of a process with these new alloys.

 

[Escalante11]

Necking down is a bit of a process with these new alloys.

Can’t be anymore of a process than fire forming 6UM

 

[Trekker308]

This is probably already in another thread but what do you guys think, especially when they release the 308 as well, along with various others. Death blow to the 6.5 prc, rip.

6.5mm Creedmoor +PEAK

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I’m here for the 308 +Peak! If I can at get 180 gr bullets at least 30-06 speed, from a 20” 308 barrel, I’d be thrilled.

 

[MCS]

I'm not sure with the +peak case if you will ever be able to keep as low of ES and be as accurate as the prc is. The +peak ammo will have its place but I'm not sure it will ever be as good as the prc is for long range.

 

[The Guide]

I'm not sure with the +peak case if you will ever be able to keep as low of ES and be as accurate as the prc is. The +peak ammo will have its place but I'm not sure it will ever be as good as the prc is for long range.

What gives you the impression that you wouldn't have a low ES or good accuracy? That was not my experience with the 7mm Backcountry that uses the same Peak Alloy cases. I had low ES (sub 15) and acceptable accuracy (sub 1.5" five shot groups) from all loads with my rifle liking 2 loads the best (sub 0.8" five shot groups with sub 10 ES) from a sub $600 rifle.

Until they release production ammo, I don't see how you could justify your statement. Especially if the cases become components for handloading.

Jay

 

[MCS]

What gives you the impression that you wouldn't have a low ES or good accuracy? That was not my experience with the 7mm Backcountry that uses the same Peak Alloy cases. I had low ES (sub 15) and acceptable accuracy (sub 1.5" five shot groups) from all loads with my rifle liking 2 loads the best (sub 0.8" five shot groups with sub 10 ES) from a sub $600 rifle.

Until they release production ammo, I don't see how you could justify your statement. Especially if the cases become components for handloading.

Jay

Neck tension with the steel case might be difficult and running 80k psi might make the cartridge more temperamental.

I personally haven't seen as good of results as your getting from your 7 backcountry.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Anyone have an idea on whether it'll be fine to shoot these in Tikkas?

 

[Remington92]

Dumb question but what's these shorter barrels and higher pressures going to do to the lifespan/ survivability of cans and the "caliber ratings" that were all used to? What's the pressure at the can going to be for a 16" 80k psi 6.5 creedmoor vs say a 22" 300wm or NM

 

[JohnJohnson]

Dumb question but what's these shorter barrels and higher pressures going to do to the lifespan/ survivability of cans and the "caliber ratings" that were all used to? What's the pressure at the can going to be for a 16" 80k psi 6.5 creedmoor vs say a 22" 300wm or NM

Probably have to go off of the recommended barrel length for a 6.5PRC but I also wonder about that.

 

[Okie-hunter]

I’m excited to try these new loads & see where the industry takes it. I preordered the 156 Berger & 130 terminal ascent loads in hopes one of them will shoot well out of my Browning hells canyon speed. I see little reason to switch my heavier target rifle over as it shoots 147eldm Hornady match loads ($28 / box instead of $50+) exceptionally well and I won’t be hunting with it. However, I’m sure the target rifle will get to shoot a group or two of each new loading just for curiosity sake.

 

[Andouille]

Necking down is a bit of a process with these new alloys.

Necking down steel cases seems impracticable for the reloader because steel doesnt "flow" like brass under relatively low pressures.

Steel cases are formed using metal injection molding or as understand from internet searching "steel cases undergoe immense pressure through a series of drawing dies and presses. These squeeze and stretch the metal into shallow cups, which are repeatedly drawn out to elongate the walls and create the correct internal dimensions for a rifle cartridge."

 

[Halligan]

Anyone have an idea on whether it'll be fine to shoot these in Tikkas?

I don’t know tikkas stance, but have seen video of it shot from an ace game model

 

[nm.otter]

Necking down steel cases seems impracticable for the reloader because steel doesnt "flow" like brass under relatively low pressures.

Right -- so necking down would likely involve roll-forming or drawing machinery plus annealing and re-tempering. That might pencil out for a custom ammo shop.

 

[diverc18]

I'm not sure with the +peak case if you will ever be able to keep as low of ES and be as accurate as the prc is. The +peak ammo will have its place but I'm not sure it will ever be as good as the prc is for long range.

Can’t be as bad as shooting factory Hornady lol (saying this as a factory Hornady shooter)

 

[MCS]

Can’t be as bad as shooting factory Hornady lol (saying this as a factory Hornady shooter)

You right. My friends 300 prc had a ES of 80 with Hornady ammo.

 

[The Guide]

Can’t be as bad as shooting factory Hornady lol (saying this as a factory Hornady shooter)

Where you play the "will it shoot good but be slow or have good speed but 2 MOA groups" roulette wheel? Their consistency is their inconsistency. Velocity difference between lots over 100 fps is exhausting yet I keep buying it because I can usually get pretty good groups from even slow ammo...

Jay

 

[diverc18]

Where you play the "will it shoot good but be slow or have good speed but 2 MOA groups" roulette wheel? Their consistency is their inconsistency. Velocity difference between lots over 100 fps is exhausting yet I keep buying it because I can usually get pretty good groups from even slow ammo...

Jay

I love how this is universal experience. Fingers crossed with the peak+ lol

 

[Panthercove]

Haven’t checked in a while but over on SH 45-90 was cutting down and resizing the 7bc to 308 and 6.5 earlier this year.