50 yard group

[Jotis]

What would be an acceptable 50 yard group? I seem to be good at 30 yards, much farther then that not so good

 

[fatlander]

Within a 6-7” circle, every single time, not cherry picking your best group, is pretty good by the common mans standards. There’s a lot of internet experts that’ll say 1” per every 10 yards. That would make you one of the most elite shooters in the world.

If you’re only really confident in your groups to 30 yards by the time hunting season gets here, don’t fling 50 yard Hail Marys.


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[jdubrr]

I use the 6-7 inch circle as my standard as well out to 75 yards (practicing with broadheads not shooting at animals) I figure thats about the size of the kill zone on deer sized game

 

[307]

1" per 10 yards is a good guideline for well executed shots but is nowhere near elite. For 3 arrow groups in calm conditions...

 

[fatlander]

1" per 10 yards is a good guideline for well executed shots but is nowhere near elite. For 3 arrow groups in calm conditions...

The ten ring on a Vegas target is 1.575 inches, shot at 20 yards. . . . . Do you shoot a 300 round every time you shoot?

1” per 10 yards is elite. Especially at longer distances.


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[wapitibob]

1" in 10 won't score 500 on a field round.

 

[307]

The ten ring on a Vegas target is 1.575 inches, shot at 20 yards. . . . . Do you shoot a 300 round every time you shoot?

1” per 10 yards is elite. Especially at longer distances.


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I'm guessing you have little or no experience with tournament archery. A 10 on a Vegas face is a miss for elite archers.

 

[Florida Bow Hunter]

Within a 6-7” circle, every single time, not cherry picking your best group, is pretty good by the common mans standards. There’s a lot of internet experts that’ll say 1” per every 10 yards. That would make you one of the most elite shooters in the world.

If you’re only really confident in your groups to 30 yards by the time hunting season gets here, don’t fling 50 yard Hail Marys.


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I always went by the 1” per 10 yards. So 50 yards, look for 5 inches.

Performing it all the time is another thing. But when practice 3 shot ends, I’m trying to get tighter than 5 inches @ 50. I might get shotgun spray results but I’m trying to get 5 inch or better. Stack on top of one another is always a happy feeling. Or in line north and south. I hate being left and right, but up and down but in line, I like.


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[fatlander]

I'm guessing you have little or no experience with tournament archery. A 10 on a Vegas face is a miss for elite archers.

So you too shoot 300s every round?

I tell you, these Internet dead eyes come out of the wood work on these threads. The common man does not shoot 300s over and over again.


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[307]

Please show me where I claim to be elite.

I'll wait.

 

[307]

Actually, I'd better not wait. It could be a while before you realize your error

I am certainly nowhere near elite. I'm just a half-assed local shooter. I suck. An average round for me on a Vegas faces around 297 with 15x. I have friends who regularly shoot 300 and they are nowhere near elite either. Elite is a completely different level, and the comment that 1" per 10 yards is elite is laughable.

 

[Florida Bow Hunter]

So you too shoot 300s every round?

I tell you, these Internet dead eyes come out of the wood work on these threads. The common man does not shoot 300s over and over again.


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Lol

Yeah, if they did they’d have to shoot 600’s or something.

Talk about perfection ? Every shoot trap ?
@ the Grand American Clay Target Championship you qualify for the shoot off with a 200 perfect round.

I think the shoot offs go another 1600 rounds before the champ wears out the competition. It’s miss and out. Remarkable shooting.


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[Florida Bow Hunter]

Actually, I'd better not wait. It could be a while before you realize your error

I am certainly nowhere near elite. I'm just a half-assed local shooter. I suck. An average round for me on a Vegas faces around 297 with 15x. I have friends who regularly shoot 300 and they are nowhere near elite either. Elite is a completely different level, and the comment that 1" per 10 yards is elite is laughable.

I think atleast my point is, 1 inch per 10 yards happens to be what everyone judges proficiency for themselves as a barometer or goal.

I think 1 inch per 10 yards is fine efficient shooting. I don’t feel it’s “Elite”.

I have a friend who pastes the bull @ 40 yards.

He won the Worlds 3D IBO Semi Pro. He’s A great shot and he’s not even one of the super pros we see who are real Elite. His 40 yard groups might be 2 inches or less.


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[RosinBag]

These threads are pointless. Everyone is a world champion in their back yard. For the target guys that actually shoot competition, you will understand that only the very top level archers compete at the same level they practice at. The rest of us strive for that, but is very rare, that’s why people always have some excuse when they go to a competition and don’t score like they think they should.

And as far as Vegas, you drop a 900 and you are in a very small group of archers. Thousands shoot that tournament and about 15-25 a year get a 900 buckle.

Then you can look at Fita / World Archery outdoor that shoot a 3.62” ten ring at 55 yards. You better be having a good day to shoot 600 on that one.

And lastly, the field round and the 1” per ten yards, would get you a 512 if you were being precise. Just giving yourself a small amount of wiggle room would get you closer to 558.

The guys who make a living at archery have more than accuracy going for them, they are usually great bow mechanics and have a tremendous mental game. When you spend 6 to 7 hours shooting a day at Redding and only shoot two arrows every 15 minutes, you have to stay sharp mentally.

I would really quit trying to figure out how good everyone else is and work on shooting each arrow to the best of your ability with good execution. Your groups and scores will go up with this type of attitude.

 

[Don Qui Puncher]

thanks Dale ^^^

 

[Planopurist]

What would be an acceptable 50 yard group? I seem to be good at 30 yards, much farther then that not so good

I’d say “acceptable” is X % of your arrows in a kill zone size group at that distance. X % should be whatever your ethics tolerates. Good practice, habits, and equipment will increase your margin for meeting X %.


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[Btaylor]

Depends on if we are talking about shooting targets or critters. Acceptable on targets depends on the level you are trying to achieve, do you want to win or just have a good showing? Either way, scores posted by other shooters set the standard you are trying to reach outside of perfection. With hunting acceptable is different imo. Acceptable is interchangable with ethical and that is individual. Your acceptable or ethical shooting distance is the range where you have no doubt you can place your arrow in the killzone every time you drop the string. I have seen plenty of guys who could stack arrows in the end of a coke can out to 60 yards but could not consistently hit a deer at 25, not the killzone of the deer, just the deer. Goes back to the mental game mentioned earlier. You do not have to be a world class shooter to kill critters and there are plenty of stone cold killers that could not begin to hold their own at elite level tourneys but if they have to put one arrow in the killzone they are absolute money. The point here is if you are a bowhunter do not let your confidence in killing critters suffer if your groups are not world class when you are shooting high volume groups. If you can put your first arrow on the money every time at every distance you would take a shot at an animal, that's what I am looking for personally.

 

[5MilesBack]

What would be an acceptable 50 yard group?

Nobody can tell "you" what "your" acceptable 50 yard shooting should be.

On average, my 50 yard shooting is worse than my 40 and 60 yard shooting.

 

[NYSKIER]

Nobody can tell "you" what "your" acceptable 50 yard shooting should be.

On average, my 50 yard shooting is worse than my 40 and 60 yard shooting.

Funny you say that five miles back because my 40 is usually worse than my 50 and 60 and I can't make heads or tails of it. I'm guessing maybe I'm off mentally sometimes because I think it's easier

 

[Wrench]

The world of archery changes fast once you learn how fast a deer can hone in on the sound of your arrow coming, move out of it'sway and vanish without a trace.

Ethical shot distances can only be answeredby the shooter on that day. I've taken long shots on game successfully and I've been string jumped at 20 yards.

As for groups, the best you can repeat is just that. Do it with broadheads and monitor the wind and noise.....add it all up and answer the question.