450/500cc vs big bore atv

I've ridden the bigger ones but only owned the 400 Honda and currently the 500 Polaris Sportsman.
More power is nice...but it seems wasted unless you tow heavy stuff....I have never felt the need for more power with my 400/500's.

Must haves IMO; Power steering, independent suspension

One consideration; The extra power doesn't really hurt you except that those units are a lot heavier which is a factor sometimes horsing them around.
 
Consider the rack capacity. The Can Am racks are excellent for strapping gear and meat. The 500 racks are slightly smaller.
 
I don't think you would regret going with a 700. Likely overkill in a lot of cases but having headroom is nice. I have a Yamaha 700 and have family with multiple 450-500s (not yamaha), and the 450-500s will get you where you are going but they can bog down if you are pulling or carrying more than a few hundred lbs... but I have drug an elk whole + 3 people up a mtn. on a small trailer with my 700. Have also carried a deer + 2 people on the unit itself, or a quartered elk + 2 people on the unit.

Transporting yourself and a quartered critter, a 450 will get it done. If you want to pull a decent bit of weight or carry multiple people, a 700 will do better.

Gearing also is important.

Also, physical size isn't that much different between the two.

Have fun!
 
I've done 65 mph on my 570SP with myself (#200) and another #100 of gear. I didn't and won't ever need to go that fast. On the trail, I never have an issue being underpowered.

Something to consider is the 4wd engagement system. Can Am uses a slip engage system. The front wheels spin a rotation or two before suddenly engaging. The Polaris system is on-demand. Once the switch is flipped, the front differential engages.
 
The right/best answer really depends on how to you plan to use the machine and what type of terrain and conditions you would expect to use it in.

For my intended uses, the bigger machines have far more checks in the "cons" column as compared to the "pros." As others have noted, the main advantages the bigger quads have over the smaller is load carrying and towing capacity. I would add clearance and weight, the latter of which is an advantage if crossing deep, fast rivers, but a massive disadvantage in many other situations and types of terrain.

I think a 450 (400-500) really hits the sweet spot for an ATV. Big enough to haul you and as much gear/meat as a personal could reasonably want to, but small enough that you can wiggle it into and out of just about anywhere and manage it by yourself. Throw a winch on the front and some ATP Mudlite tires on it and you have got, what I think is the ultimate access and tool, at least here in Alaska.

The smaller machines don't get stuck as easily, and if they do, they are much easier to get unstuck. They are a lot easier to manage on steep, loose, off-camber terrain. They get better fuel economy that their larger counterparts. They fit through places that ****** machines won't such as some of the pedestrian/railroad bridges. Trailering them is easier.

I have no need or interest to go fast. Not really possible in most of the places I wind up.

The main limitation I run into with the smaller machines is crossing deep, fast rivers. The bigger machines definitely handle those with a little more comfort with higher clearance and more weight to keep them in contact with the bottom. That having been said, if the crossing is deep enough that I can't do it with my machine, I usually wouldn't consider it even with a bigger machine.

I've spent a ton of time on Honda's (400-450 Ranchers and Foreman) and Yamahas (Grizzlys and Kodiaks 450 & 700) and would recommend either. No major issues with any of them. IRS is your friend in rough terrain. Heated grips are a must if using in all seasons.

"What is the best offroad vehicle for Alaska" is a debate held many times daily I am sure. For me it is the one that opens up as many types of terrain or as much access as possible rather than a vehicle choice that might be really capable, but only for a specific application or type of terrain.

I currently have a pair of Grizzly 450s and have had them loaded up with gear on the racks while towing a trailer stuffed full of moose meat many times and they had no problem handling that.

The little quads, in my opinion, will get you more places than any other option.

The 6-wheeled sit on tops like the Big Boss are quite popular and strike a pretty good balance between a lot of the different considerations. A 6-wheeled SxS with tracks is very versatile and capable as well, but $$$. Sherps are pretty BA but impractical for most.
 
Lots of opinions here, just like asking about a specific cartridge. I’ve owned dozens of machines for my self and my wife over the years. I like fast big bore machines but it isn’t necessary and there are drawbacks. The gas mileage is a big one in my opinion. I really believe, after owning three of them, the Suzuki King Quad 500 with power steering is the best all around machine. Plenty of power, but not crazy, excellent gas mileage and built amazing. I’ve never had a single issue with any of the three that I’ve owned. My wife wanted something with a bit more go, so she now rides a King Quad 750. Install a set of Kenda Bear Claw HTRs and you have a great machine that will serve you well and last a long time.
 
I've had a Kawasaki Bayou 220 and a Bayou 300, both 2 wheel drive. Then I bought a Yamaha Big Bear 400 4x and put 12,000 miles on it, after it I had a 2019 (still have) a Honda Foremen 400 eps with power steering, it's now my loaner machine. My next machine and favorite is the Yamaha Grizzly 550 eps. This is the most capable and comfortable machine of all that I have had. It's nosier that the Honda though. Ground clearance is better than any of the previous machines and that's important in rocky western Colorado. My Wife just replaced her Grizzly 550 with a Grizzly 700 since they don't make the 550 anymore. It's a great machine and will be my next one. My Wife and I live in western Colorado and ride recreationally and hunt, we ride them in Utah, Arizona etc so we put lots of miles on them. I like the ability to cruise 40MPH on dirt roads without the machine being wound up too much since we are often in places where we use them in place of 4wd vehicles that we don't want to tear up. Whatever brand choice you make, electric power steering is a must have item.
 
My opinion, when it comes to motors typically, on atvs or anything really, yes a 300 midsize atv will get it done. But it’s not only about getting it done. It’s about getting it done easily with less issues.

The same weight you would put on a full size, say Polaris 570 or bigger would be reaching if not over limit for a mid size. That also makes things sketchy. You’d also be working the motor and suspension harder than a full size with larger motor. You’d be using a higher % of available power for the duration, which could cause issues.

A smaller atv with lots of weight is more dangerous the a bigger wider atv with more power.

Also, I know w the Polaris, as it goes up in power over the 570 , say 800 or 1000 , the bikes seating is actually a little lower for center of gravity and I think a more stout suspension and possibly wider track.

If I wanted another atv for work, or reliable use , away from the farm, it would be the biggest most capable one I could get my hands on
 
I like simplicity, reliability, and lightweight. Inexpensive is a plus for me as well.

I grew up with Honda 3 and 4 wheelers, none bigger than a 250. The 3 wheelers had homemade racks because they weren’t available when they were bought new. In 97 we upgraded to the all new 250 Recons, what a space shuttle compared to the old 250SX and FTX200s. We’re still using a couple Recons and some plain Jane manual shift 420 Ranchers. Thousands of miles and scores of quarters and carcasses hauled out plus however much firewooding and fence building and we’re yet to have a breakdown worse than a carb issue.

I’ve hauled a whole quartered bull elk on a Recon multiple times. Hauled whole cow elk with the guts in on the Ranchers. Mature buck Muleys whole on Recons and who knows how many 150lb whitetails.

I can generally unstick a 400lb machine myself by hand. A 700 that weighs 1.5x or more, not as likely. Plus the smaller wheelers fit in the back of a short box pickup with the tailgate up or you can load 2 side by side on the average trailer. And I can buy 2 of them on the used market, maybe even 3, for what a big machine brings.

Just my not so popular opinion but there are advantages to the smaller machines.
 
My old Bayou 300 or 350 whatever it was weighed right at 500 lbs I believe. My Kodiak 700 is just about 100 lbs heavier with a slightly larger frame (still fits in a 3/4 ton short bed). The 4 wheel independent suspension is tremendous.
 
I’ll probably be in the minority but I think 500’s are plenty big for almost everything except maybe running tracks. I remember when 300’s were big and I’ve taken 2wd 200’s all over the place
I agree with this. I have a 2008 Honda rancher 420 that has been EXTREMELY reliable and will do anything but run tracks. I'm not a small guy by any means and it hauls just fine, also gets exceptional mpg.
I don't see any reason to buy a big atv or go high end brrr go fast brand like Can-am.
 
High end can ams aren’t go fast atvs hahahah. I mean sure if you buy a sport quad, but talking down on bigger motor full atvs bc what yiy have works for you is pretty narrow minded.

Full size big bore can and and Polaris UTILITY quads are fast, but not bc they are built as race bikes but simply bc they have power and better power to weight ratio. A bigger motor is nice when your carrying heavy loads often, towing trailers, want more stability with weight added, also the motor works less to achieve the same work. You can talk down on them if you want bc what you have works for you, but there is a place for them, and bc it’s not for you doesn’t it mean it’s all show and go fast poser atv. I’ll take a utility quad with 1000 cc all day over a 450 if money wasn’t an issue.
 
But would you take a 1000cc wheeler over a sxs?

The only reason I want a wheeler is to ride <50" two-track, and I don't want a big machine or very heavy load on. If there are no width restrictions, you might as well have a bed and a roof over your head.
 
I have a 2001 Polaris sportsman 500 h.o.

I have a 2023 Polaris sportsman 570 with power steering

Before next season I will buying a Polaris utility sxs bc of a number of reasons, but nothing power related. Merely convienence and heater hahahaha
 
High end can ams aren’t go fast atvs hahahah. I mean sure if you buy a sport quad, but talking down on bigger motor full atvs bc what yiy have works for you is pretty narrow minded.

Full size big bore can and and Polaris UTILITY quads are fast, but not bc they are built as race bikes but simply bc they have power and better power to weight ratio. A bigger motor is nice when your carrying heavy loads often, towing trailers, want more stability with weight added, also the motor works less to achieve the same work. You can talk down on them if you want bc what you have works for you, but there is a place for them, and bc it’s not for you doesn’t it mean it’s all show and go fast poser atv. I’ll take a utility quad with 1000 cc all day over a 450 if money wasn’t an issue.
It's go fast compared to a Honda 420 😂
I wasn't talking down on bigger machines by any means, I was just stating being practical can be affordable and fit certain people's needs.
I doubt many people need a 1000cc quad to haul a trailer 30 miles offroad or plan to go 60mph on dirt roads while hunting 😄
 
I had a Polaris 550XP for a while before I bought my side by side. It never left me wanting for more power. The only upgrade that would have been worth spending my money on was power steering.
 
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