.25 Cal (Quarter Bore) / Big Game Success - 25 Creed, 25-284, 25-06, 25 PRC, 25 SAUM

[khuber84]

Larger cases are needed to make the heavy/high bc 25 cal bullets competitive. A 20in 6cm will run heavy bullets at 2950-3000mv. A 20in 25cm will be at top end around 2700-2750mv. You have to step up to a short mag or larger to get them going fast enough to see the difference on paper. But now you're at a significant recoil disadvantage. The 25 cal trend is cool, but they are near same mousetrap as a 65mm.

 

[Elk Chaser]

25 PRC made short work of this last day MT bull at ~275 yards. Didn't bother with autopsy pics as I was solo and needed to get him taken care of. As expected the 134 eld-m worked beautifully, hit him three times through the lungs as him and the herd were just standing around...on his feet for maybe 30 seconds after the first shot. I have to say I'm also very impressed with the US OG6.5 as well. Coming from a TBAC U5 I'm certain the whole group would have been sent into far more of a frenzy after the first shot. As it was, they just milled around confused until the bull hit the ground. I'll be working up a load with the 128 eld-x over the winter to see if I can wring a little more speed out of my 18" barrel.

 

[sierracharlie338]

25 PRC made short work of this last day MT bull at ~275 yards. Didn't bother with autopsy pics as I was solo and needed to get him taken care of. As expected the 134 eld-m worked beautifully, hit him three times through the lungs as him and the herd were just standing around...on his feet for maybe 30 seconds after the first shot. I have to say I'm also very impressed with the US OG6.5 as well. Coming from a TBAC U5 I'm certain the whole group would have been sent into far more of a frenzy after the first shot. As it was, they just milled around confused until the bull hit the ground. I'll be working up a load with the 128 eld-x over the winter to see if I can wring a little more speed out of my 18" barrel.

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I can’t wait to kill something with the 134 lol

 

[Elk Chaser]

I can’t wait to kill something with the 134 lol

That makes one antelope and one bull elk for me this year with them. Interestingly enough both right around 275 yards as well. Antelope was DRT pretty much as expected, very happy with the performance thus far...I really feel these new 25 caliber bullets strike a happy medium with with recoil when using a good suppressor or brake and just a little more bullet mass than the 223/243 offerings.

 

[FredH]

Larger cases are needed to make the heavy/high bc 25 cal bullets competitive. A 20in 6cm will run heavy bullets at 2950-3000mv. A 20in 25cm will be at top end around 2700-2750mv. You have to step up to a short mag or larger to get them going fast enough to see the difference on paper. But now you're at a significant recoil disadvantage. The 25 cal trend is cool, but they are near same mousetrap as a 65mm.

Heavy for the 6cm topping out at 115 grs and heavy for the 25 cm topping out at 134 gr. Or are you comparing 103,108 and 109 grain bullets to the 134 grain bullets in the 25?

 

[khuber84]

Heavy for the 6cm topping out at 115 grs and heavy for the 25 cm topping out at 134 gr. Or are you comparing 103,108 and 109 grain bullets to the 134 grain bullets in the 25?

Dtacs aren't the best bullet for the 6cm, been stated a lot on here by the powers that be. I run 112s at 2940 in a 20in barrel. I don't feel any discernable difference in recoil of a 108-112 gr bullet at that velocity. Also run 109s at 2860 in an 18in barrel as well.

Switch to my 23in 25cm with 134s going 2800, and there is a definite difference. I don't feel any difference in my 25cm VS my 65cm with 144s at 2720.

 

[FredH]

Dtacs aren't the best bullet for the 6cm, been stated a lot on here by the powers that be. I run 112s at 2940 in a 20in barrel. I don't feel any discernable difference in recoil of a 108-112 gr bullet at that velocity. Also run 109s at 2860 in an 18in barrel as well.

Switch to my 23in 25cm with 134s going 2800, and there is a definite difference. I don't feel any difference in my 25cm VS my 65cm with 144s at 2720.

I have a 257 Roberts and my heavy bullet load is a 120 gr. Speer BTSP at a bit over 2800 fps. out of a 20 inch barrel. Oddly yes it does buck a bit harder than my 243 but still very tolerable. Could be because I am running the 85 gr. Sierra BTSP this year at 3250 fps out of it's 20 inch barrel. I only use them for deer and I have no shot opportunities over 350 yards so both work pretty well. When you mention 144 gr. bullets at 2720 fps that is getting pretty close to what the average 308 factory load does with a 150 gr. bullet. I wonder how comparable the recoil between the two is?

 

[ezwy]

25 PRC made short work of this last day MT bull at ~275 yards. Didn't bother with autopsy pics as I was solo and needed to get him taken care of. As expected the 134 eld-m worked beautifully, hit him three times through the lungs as him and the herd were just standing around...on his feet for maybe 30 seconds after the first shot. I have to say I'm also very impressed with the US OG6.5 as well. Coming from a TBAC U5 I'm certain the whole group would have been sent into far more of a frenzy after the first shot. As it was, they just milled around confused until the bull hit the ground. I'll be working up a load with the 128 eld-x over the winter to see if I can wring a little more speed out of my 18" barrel.

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[khuber84]

I have a 257 Roberts and my heavy bullet load is a 120 gr. Speer BTSP at a bit over 2800 fps. out of a 20 inch barrel. Oddly yes it does buck a bit harder than my 243 but still very tolerable. Could be because I am running the 85 gr. Sierra BTSP this year at 3250 fps out of it's 20 inch barrel. I only use them for deer and I have no shot opportunities over 350 yards so both work pretty well. When you mention 144 gr. bullets at 2720 fps that is getting pretty close to what the average 308 factory load does with a 150 gr. bullet. I wonder how comparable the recoil between the two is?

None of these cartridges have heavy recoil, just different levels of light/tolerable. I have a short barrel 11# 300 norma improved, with 215 hybrids mid 2900s for mv, suppressed. That's recoil! Kinda like my 338 rum that hasn't been shot in a LONG time.

 

[sierracharlie338]

None of these cartridges have heavy recoil, just different levels of light/tolerable. I have a short barrel 11# 300 norma improved, with 215 hybrids mid 2900s for mv, suppressed. That's recoil! Kinda like my 338 rum that hasn't been shot in a LONG time.

lol I know the feeling. My 338 Lapua has been sitting in the safe for a good minute now. I saw some factory ammo at a bass pro over the weekend, thought about it for a second, and kept on walking

 

[FredH]

None of these cartridges have heavy recoil, just different levels of light/tolerable. I have a short barrel 11# 300 norma improved, with 215 hybrids mid 2900s for mv, suppressed. That's recoil! Kinda like my 338 rum that hasn't been shot in a LONG time.

True. For a while I ran 200 grain Partitions through my 300 Win mag which was not a heavy rifle though it had a 26" barrel. I was getting pretty close to 3000 fps and yep it bucked. It did kill everything I shot with it very quickly. But so did my 30-06. My real complaint was the length of the rifle. Getting in and out of a truck it was just a bit loonger than I liked.

 

[sierracharlie338]

..I really feel these new 25 caliber bullets strike a happy medium with with recoil when using a good suppressor or brake and just a little more bullet mass than the 223/243 offerings.

Yeah I definitely agree. My wife preferred the suppressed 25killmoor over an unbraked 223 in a tupperware stock. Then killed her first big game animal with it.