223 for cougar?

[Maverick1]

Govt tracker/depredation - I assume hundreds.

Ask your second-degree connection for an actual number.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Ask your second-degree connection for an actual number.

You want a houndsman to give a public number? lol. NM they get 2 tags.

How many houndsman you been around? Look closely, most carry a 22 LR or Mag pistol. Light and you aren’t exactly shooting at distance as most get shot in the head.

 

[Maverick1]

You want a houndsman to give a public number? lol. NM they get 2 tags.

How many houndsman you been around? Look closely, most carry a 22 LR or Mag pistol. Light and you aren’t exactly shooting at distance as most get shot in the head.

A statement was made about a second degree connection killing “piles” of animals, then that was followed up with an assumption that it was “hundreds” by a govt tracker / depredation. Still looking for clarification on what constitutes piles.

A Plea for Direct Experience

To quote Ryan:
“If you haven't done it, STFU!”

 

[khart_6882]

You’re over thinking it dude, they’re soft. I’ve killed/seen them killed with .243 58 gr v max, 6br, 22-250, .204

 

[cuerro viejo]

A statement was made about a second degree connection killing “piles” of animals, then that was followed up with an assumption that it was “hundreds” by a govt tracker / depredation. Still looking for clarification on what constitutes piles.

A Plea for Direct Experience

To quote Ryan:
“If you haven't done it, STFU!”

I wouldn’t state a non-center fire number on a public forum but to each their own…. Unless you are in TX

 

[180ls1]

I wouldn’t state a non-center fire number on a public forum but to each their own.

Yeah, I probably said a touch too much as it is and won't further divulge.

Regardless, I'd encourage a guy to talk to a hounsdman and see what they think. My buddy and this guy's boss who relayed the info are dedicated outdoorsmen, this wasn't some bar story and I have no reason to doubt them.

 

[cksea]

223 would work for sure

 

[Legend]

Question was for another user.

Oops....I didn't mean to qoute you. Carry on...my bad.

 

[Big_wals]

To the OP, I wouldn’t hesitate to use a .223 on a lion. If you are afraid of heavy bone on a frontal shot on a cougar, spend a little more time reading the 223 thread. You’ll have no problem.

Yeah, I probably said a touch too much as it is and won't further divulge.

Regardless, I'd encourage a guy to talk to a hounsdman and see what they think. My buddy and this guy's boss who relayed the info are dedicated outdoorsmen, this wasn't some bar story and I have no reason to doubt them.

I’m gonna join the dogpile and request an actual number from your friend of a friend. This is a hunting forum, if you know of a government trapper who has killed hundreds of lions with a .22 mag we would all be interested to know about him. You’re acting like he’s doing something illegal.

 

[180ls1]

To the OP, I wouldn’t hesitate to use a .223 on a lion. If you are afraid of heavy bone on a frontal shot on a cougar, spend a little more time reading the 223 thread. You’ll have no problem.



I’m gonna join the dogpile and request an actual number from your friend of a friend. This is a hunting forum, if you know of a government trapper who has killed hundreds of lions with a .22 mag we would all be interested to know about him. You’re acting like he’s doing something illegal.

False, that is your implication.

They are just private fellas. If you knew the politics of the state or the temperament of that type you would understand.

 

[roosiebull]

I’m using for Black Hills 77gr TMK for all of the above mentioned critters.

Same, have also killed them with smk, but wouldn’t do that again with what I know now

Wouldn’t hesitate using a 73 eldm either

 

[roosiebull]

Yeah, have read much of the 223 thread, seems 77 grain TMK is favored, but on perfect angles. I'm picturing a frontal shot and not getting through the bones to the lungs. Hal4son matches my thoughts on the matter of rather having the 243 or 2506. But I like the 223 more often for the smaller game. Lots of thick brush in Western Wa.

I would shoot one at any angle with a tmk, there is nothing on a lion that makes me nervous with that bullet and even if you didn’t want to hit the shoulder, the shoulder on a lion is pretty small, I have shot them quarter to with a 223, I shot a big tom 4 times before he could disappear and none of the bullets failed to penetrate… it’s not a thing

Deer are pretty soft, lions are quite a bit softer.

 

[270-300]

Wyoming requires a 60 grain bullet minimum in 22 cal center fire. I load hornady 60 grain lead tip spitzers in my 22 250. I would not hesitate to use them on any animal in north america where legal.