.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Pharmseller]

Are Orcs much of a problem anymore?




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[KHntr]

Damn, it’s worth the flight just so I can be first to take a warg with an 88 ELD m…

 

[Stocky]

It's great but if you think competing with other foothunters is bad try find mature animals when it's legal for commercial operators to shoot deer from helicopters. We have good populations if your willing to do the work (I start almost every hunt with 3000+ feet of elevation gain) but age class is pretty devastated from unlimited hunting opportunity. I couldn't go back to having seasons but it's not 100% utopia. I still very much enjoy hunting the US when I can.

 

[BigNate]

For those who still question our choices you really need to consider the resulting wound is the means of killing, and it doesn't matter what caused it.

The first deer I shot with the 77gr TMK was a WT doe, about 90 yards, off-hand out of a 16" AR. I aimed to put it through the top of the heart. She started turning as the shot broke. Bullet exited, making as bit of a mess.
Why would anyone need more wound than this.

 

[HighUintas]

For those who still question our choices you really need to consider the resulting wound is the means of killing, and it doesn't matter what caused it.

The first deer I shot with the 77gr TMK was a WT doe, about 90 yards, off-hand out of a 16" AR. I aimed to put it through the top of the heart. She started turning as the shot broke. Bullet exited, making as bit of a mess.
Why would anyone need more wound than this.

Is that the Exit?

 

[BigNate]

Is that the Exit?

Yes, behind the leg on entry, through shoulder and exit.

 

[Nomosendero]

Yes, behind the leg on entry, through shoulder and exit.

I like it!

 

[Poe]

For those who still question our choices you really need to consider the resulting wound is the means of killing, and it doesn't matter what caused it.

The first deer I shot with the 77gr TMK was a WT doe, about 90 yards, off-hand out of a 16" AR. I aimed to put it through the top of the heart. She started turning as the shot broke. Bullet exited, making as bit of a mess.
Why would anyone need more wound than this.

Just curious if you would have an approximate live weight on that doe. I have been told our deer in Saskatchewan can be a bit bigger than some of the southern deer so was just looking for comparison

 

[BigNate]

Just curious if you would have an approximate live weight on that doe. I have been told our deer in Saskatchewan can be a bit bigger than some of the southern deer so was just looking for comparison

I'm not far from the Canadian border so these aren't as small as the Southern US. I had about 45# of packaged meat IIRC. So what's the rule of thumb? 30% of live weight? Not sure, don't weigh anything. I know they're a lot heavier in my backpack than they used to be.

 

[Pharmseller]

Why would anyone need more wound than this.

How can I measure up to any gun now, after such a wound as this?

Well who are you?

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist)




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[Wilderlife]

No season or limit for deer, chamois, thar, pigs, goats, wild sheep, rabbits, possums and so on.
Plus masses of public land hunting area.
Hence a lot of us are hunting regularly

There is a season for game birds.

I know the 'global scene' is very much focused on USA and Canada, but it never ceases to amaze me just how much information and opportunity is out there for NZ and Australia, yet North Americans are still ignorant to this stuff.

I haven't kept up with this thread properly but I've posted in it a few times. Plenty of cool things being done here with .224 bullets and larger animals, but most people around the world can't even begin to comprehend just how many animals fall to .224 bullets in Aus and NZ every year.

I'm in the process of sorting out a varmint .223 for myself to be my go-to ute rifle, as I'm sick of torturing my poor ol' L461 in .222.

 

[Pharmseller]

I'm in the process of sorting out a varmint .223 for myself to be my go-to ute rifle, as I'm sick of torturing my poor ol' L461 in .222.

What’s the season on utes?

We can’t shoot them here.




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[Wilderlife]

Depends how much you like your ute. My LandCruiser is a protected species.