.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

It's great but if you think competing with other foothunters is bad try find mature animals when it's legal for commercial operators to shoot deer from helicopters. We have good populations if your willing to do the work (I start almost every hunt with 3000+ feet of elevation gain) but age class is pretty devastated from unlimited hunting opportunity. I couldn't go back to having seasons but it's not 100% utopia. I still very much enjoy hunting the US when I can.
 
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