.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[KHntr]

Nice! Sounds like you've found yourself a nice little secret spot! Out of curiosity what does that Montana weigh? Looks like a nice little outfit for walking around.

Yep, not to mention my other buddy got a tripalm as well this morning. Camping out at -13C paid off for us this year on the 2 day moose season.

I’ll weigh the Montana tomorrow.

 

[KHntr]

How’d you do all that with one bullet?

Showing my age. It’s a play on an old Nosler Partition ad from way back. Was a picture of an old boy and like 39 elk or so. “39 years, 39 elk, one bullet. The Nosler Partition”

 

[treydfoster]

Showing my age. It’s a play on an old Nosler Partition ad from way back. Was a picture of an old boy and like 39 elk or so. “39 years, 39 elk, one bullet. The Nosler Partition”

That’s a deep cut.

 

[Grizzle]

Yep, not to mention my other buddy got a tripalm as well this morning. Camping out at -13C paid off for us this year on the 2 day moose season.

I’ll weigh the Montana tomorrow.

I'll be in your neck of the woods for the November two day opener. Been lucky the last two years hopefully keep the streak going. Haven't got the 22cm finished but will be using 140eldm from prc.

 

[hunterjmj]

Killed a cow elk this morning at 320 yards. Hit her in the chest looking at me. She was pretty wobbly but gave me another shot broadside. Didn't get pictures of the heart and lungs but I believe the first shot hit the lungs and the second hit the heart. Either way she didn't go more than ten feet. Edit: 223 with 73 gr eldm.

 

[Pharmseller]

Killed a cow elk this morning at 320 yards. Hit her in the chest looking at me. She was pretty wobbly but gave me another shot broadside. Didn't get pictures of the heart and lungs but I believe the first shot hit the lungs and the second hit the heart. Either way she didn't go more than ten feet. Edit: 223 with 73 gr eldm.
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Load?

 

[hunterjmj]

Load?

Sorry, these are just factory ammo. I have 1000 77tmks but haven't had time to load some up. Got this rifle 3 weeks ago so I haven't had much time to get it shooting before antelope and elk season.

 

[Camv]

Pharmseller would you happen to know the c.o.a.l. of your 75 eldm load?
I'm as green as it gets with reloading and would like to have a base to start with for length

 

[hunterjmj]

Pharmseller would you happen to know the c.o.a.l. of your 75 eldm load?
I'm as green as it gets with reloading and would like to have a base to start with for length

They are just Hornady 73 gr eldm factory ammo. Id have to measure for you when I get home. They fit in a tikka factory magazine.
Edit: just noticed this was for pharmseller

 

[kkp005]

My 7 year old got her first deer today. We have been practicing a lot and she has got pretty dang good with the gun. Deer came out about 70 yards so the impact velocity was about 2500fps. She hit him a little far back but the little green goblin wrecked him and he only made it about 40 yards. Insides were mush. Could hear sloshing just by rolling him around… only real meat lost was the tenderloins.. they had ribs shrapnel sprayed in them. After killing stuff with the 77gr tmk it continues to impress. Really don’t know why I have any bigger guns

-18” tikka
-trijicon credo 2.5x10-56
-MDT chasis with an ar stock so she can get the right LOP.. she’s pretty small for her age @ a little over 40lbs
-hand loaded 77gr tmk’s with Xbr-8208 @ about 2650 muzzle velocity

 

[MEdude]

She proves the original concept with the first 3 pics.
Then shows off, by defying the very first tenant in the 4th picture.
I mean really! She’s shooting the über cool Lapua Match brass…. REALLY!
At 7 she’s a brass snob diva.
Absolutely love it! Congrats to her & you.

 

[kkp005]

She proves the original concept with the first 3 pics.
Then shows off, by defying the very first tenant in the 4th picture.
I mean really! She’s shooting the über cool Lapua Match brass…. REALLY!
At 7 she’s a brass snob diva.
Absolutely love it! Congrats to her & you.

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.. well we are using the RIGHT bullet with the RIGHT headstamp.. In the RIGHT tikka with the right scope . It does have tally rings but I’m in the process of transitioning. It’s the only tikka I have left that doesn’t have sportsmatch or UM’s

 

[Pharmseller]

Pharmseller would you happen to know the c.o.a.l. of your 75 eldm load?
I'm as green as it gets with reloading and would like to have a base to start with for length

COAL is 2.475”.

I’m barely touching the lands.

I’m using aftermarket mags for my Tikka.




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[hunterjmj]

COAL is 2.475”.

I’m barely touching the lands.

I’m using aftermarket mags for my Tikka.




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What mags are you using?

 

[Pharmseller]

What mags are you using?

Adam (AscensonIndustries) on 24hrcampfire sells extended OAL 3-D printed Tikka magazines. Just the shell and follower, he doesn’t provide the spring. They work great.

No dog in the fight, I hope posting a link is okay.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/19828375/1

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[hunterjmj]

Thanks. Not sure if I'll even need them but good to know this exists.

 

[sargent]

Data point for a less than perfect shot with a .223/77 TMK. New hunter hit this ~80 lb button buck in the stomach. Impact velocity was ~2377.




The deer dropped in it's tracks at the shot, then got up and ran a 20 yard loop in the field before heading into the trees. The bullet did not exit and there was no blood trail whatsoever. We found the deer bedded with it's head up ~30 minutes after the shot (no follow up shots after dark), came back an hour later and it was dead.

The bullet did it's job despite the shot placement. When we removed the first hindquarter a ton of blood came out of the deer and total distance traveled from the shot was around 75 yards.

 

[Gettincloser]

Data point for a less than perfect shot with a .223/77 TMK. New hunter hit this ~80 lb button buck in the stomach. Impact velocity was ~2377.

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The deer dropped in it's tracks at the shot, then got up and ran a 20 yard loop in the field before heading into the trees. The bullet did not exit and there was no blood trail whatsoever. We found the deer bedded with it's head up ~30 minutes after the shot (no follow up shots after dark), came back an hour later and it was dead.

The bullet did it's job despite the shot placement. When we removed the first hindquarter a ton of blood came out of the deer and total distance traveled from the shot was around 75 yards.

That is a data point that you never try to get (especially with a youth hunter) but it sure is enlightening to have. Very glad for a positive outcome. I am also very glad you were willing to share this data point.

 

[Pharmseller]

Data point for a less than perfect shot with a .223/77 TMK. New hunter hit this ~80 lb button buck in the stomach. Impact velocity was ~2377.

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The deer dropped in it's tracks at the shot, then got up and ran a 20 yard loop in the field before heading into the trees. The bullet did not exit and there was no blood trail whatsoever. We found the deer bedded with it's head up ~30 minutes after the shot (no follow up shots after dark), came back an hour later and it was dead.

The bullet did it's job despite the shot placement. When we removed the first hindquarter a ton of blood came out of the deer and total distance traveled from the shot was around 75 yards.

Sort of addresses the argument for larger cartridges in case of a marginal hit, doesn’t it?

The animal didn’t travel far and was recovered in a fairly timely fashion.






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[Machingeaneer]

Data point for a less than perfect shot with a .223/77 TMK. New hunter hit this ~80 lb button buck in the stomach. Impact velocity was ~2377.

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The deer dropped in it's tracks at the shot, then got up and ran a 20 yard loop in the field before heading into the trees. The bullet did not exit and there was no blood trail whatsoever. We found the deer bedded with it's head up ~30 minutes after the shot (no follow up shots after dark), came back an hour later and it was dead.

The bullet did it's job despite the shot placement. When we removed the first hindquarter a ton of blood came out of the deer and total distance traveled from the shot was around 75 yards.

I had a very similar situation last season but it was a 130gr mono out of a .270 wsm. That did exit but zero blood, guts and fat just plugged the holes. All that energy and penetration to have the exact same result.