.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Big_wals]

Tyler Freel shot his moose this year with a 22 ARC and 88 ELDm. He's doing good work bringing some of these ideas that run contrary to conventional wisdom to the masses with outdoor life.

Does this happen to be his? Posted to an AR hunting group on FB. Surprisingly there has been very little negative comments about it!

 

[Bowfinn]

Sierra 22cal 77gr TMK

Product Information Caliber: 22cal Bullet Diameter: 0.224” Bullet Weight: 77 Grains OAL: 1.072" Bullet Style: Tipped MatchKing Boat Tail G1 BC: 0.420 Part Number: 7177 or 7177C Quantity: 100ct or 500ct

www.bluecollarreloading.com

Thanks, but my next problem is I currently don’t reload and getting ammo shipped to Ak is hard/something I haven’t done.

 

[Poe]

It’s interesting to you that small caliber and fragmenting bullets are being advocated and your post with a big caliber and fragmenting bullets supports this is a bad idea?

Never said it was a bad idea. I just think it’s interesting how the 77smk doesn’t seem to have any issues at higher velocities even in a 22creed yet a sst at double the weight failed to penetrate far enough to damage the second lung

 

[Poe]

It was in Saskatchewan

 

[Bowfinn]

Yes, that is one of the pictures he posted on instagram.

 

[Matt5266]

My views on caliber has been changing due to this forum over the past year, and your post pushed me over the edge. Now I need to find some TMKs.

I have some for sale. Look at my classifieds

 

[wind gypsy]

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Does this happen to be his? Posted to an AR hunting group on FB. Surprisingly there has been very little negative comments about it!

Yes. that's it.

 

[omicron1792]

Shot another pig tonight with the 75 gr sabre. 115 yards, he was facing me straight on with his head down feeding. Put it right in the top of the skull. Pig dropped in his tracks, as would be expected from any bullet with that placement. Didn’t do a necropsy as I didn’t have a saw with me to cut the skull open. One of the biggest hogs I’ve ever shot, of course tonight was the night I forgot to bring my scale took two rachet straps and about twenty minutes to wrestle him into the pickup.
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He’s a monster

 

[Shraggs]

Never said it was a bad idea. I just think it’s interesting how the 77smk doesn’t seem to have any issues at higher velocities even in a 22creed yet a sst at double the weight failed to penetrate far enough to damage the second lung

Gotcha.

My take on it, regardless of caliber or bullet good shot placement is key. Poor lethality is difficult to blame, assess or argue on those things when it is a poor shot.

The pic and story don’t jive. If that is quartering to probably not where I would place a shot. Possibly partial lung, liver and guts. Hence is was not a good shot regardless of authors words. If that was broadside presentation be a better shot imo.

I think difficult to draw any conclusions on one pic and questionable written summary as a “third person”.

 

[Tahr]

Gotcha.

My take on it, regardless of caliber or bullet good shot placement is key. Poor lethality is difficult to blame, assess or argue on those things when it is a poor shot.

The pic and story don’t jive. If that is quartering to probably not where I would place a shot. Possibly partial lung, liver and guts. Hence is was not a good shot regardless of authors words. If that was broadside presentation be a better shot imo.

I think difficult to draw any conclusions on one pic and questionable written summary as a “third person”.

People seem to like to post up the "one offs" and "hardly ever" examples to make a point. Exceptions have never persuaded me. It's the norm that Im convinced by. Ive never met a bullet that hasn't been claimed to have failed at some time, but more often than not its the shooter failing it.

 

[ztc92]

Thanks, but my next problem is I currently don’t reload and getting ammo shipped to Ak is hard/something I haven’t done.

Can you get factory 73 ELDM? That may be a good plan B if you don’t reload.

 

[cowdisciple]

Can you get factory 73 ELDM? That may be a good plan B if you don’t reload.

Pretty good Plan A, for that matter.

 

[Juan_ID]

Thanks.

Factory Hornady 22 Creedmoor Precision Hunter ammo.

Factory Tikka rifle re-chambered to 22 Creed and factory Tikka 8 twist 22-250 barrel cut and threaded.

Rokstok, Maven RS1.2 scope, UM Tikka rings.

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I’m getting very similar speeds out of my 20” gt and 80 eldm’s and they shoot pretty well but I’m tempted to try some eldx just for shits. Do you plan to use the eldx over the eldm for all game?

 

[Steve300xcw]

Thanks, but my next problem is I currently don’t reload and getting ammo shipped to Ak is hard/something I haven’t done.

Palmetto state has their line of it. Its not match grade stuff but plenty accurate for tipping over animals

 

[Bowfinn]

Can you get factory 73 ELDM? That may be a good plan B if you don’t reload.

That is my plan if I’m unable to get tmks. Finding factory 73 eld hasn’t been a problem.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I’m getting very similar speeds out of my 20” gt and 80 eldm’s and they shoot pretty well but I’m tempted to try some eldx just for shits. Do you plan to use the eldx over the eldm for all game?

I do.

 

[Bowfinn]

Palmetto state has their line of it. Its not match grade stuff but plenty accurate for tipping over animals

I’m sure it shoots accurate enough to be functional out to distance. My problem is I need a friend with a checked bag on a plane or I need to get a barge/shipping company involved to get it to me.