.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

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Another thing you can do for cold hunts is get rubber gloves that are 2 sizes too large for your hand and put them over a pair of white knit stretchy gloves (we call them roper gloves) so you have something to keep your hands warm while gutting and cutting. Keeps your hands dry so you can put new gloves on as needed too. Really helps when it is below zero and blowing.

Damn near lost my finger tips one year cause I got elk fat under my finger nails and that froze the tip of my nail bed. I only lost skin but it was close to turning flesh white.

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👍 That's exactly why you see nitrile gloves pulled over wool army surplus gloves in all my pictures. The wool gloves also offer some protection from accidental cuts, which are especially bad IME if you’re cutting up a bear. They're especially nice when it's cold. My hands stay warm cutting stuff up even in below zero weather.
 

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👍 That's exactly why you see nitrile gloves pulled over wool army surplus gloves in all my pictures. The wool gloves also offer some protection from accidental cuts, which are especially bad IME if you’re cutting up a bear. They're especially nice when it's cold. My hands stay warm cutting stuff up even in below zero weather.
Another good trick is to use the knit gloves over the nitrile gloves when cutting meat. I end up cutting a lot of meat that has been frozen and is just barely thawed. Keeps your hands warm, protects from cuts, and the white knit gloves are easily washed for the next use.

Jay
 

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Starline brass, 24g varget, cci450, 2.26".
Do you have an eldm/vld seating stem? I cant fit that much varget in a case at mag length like that without making a pretty substantial dent in the bullet. I loaded a few with 24 grains, they shot fine still but look terrible.
 

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On a chargemaster, your a patient man!

Gotta have an excuse to hide in the basement for so long.

Do you have an eldm/vld seating stem? I cant fit that much varget in a case at mag length like that without making a pretty substantial dent in the bullet. I loaded a few with 24 grains, they shot fine still but look terrible.

I have the ELDM one and tried to form it to a TMK with some lapping compound and a drill. Still leaves a little ring but nothing significant. Like you say, still shoot good.
 
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80 grain ELDX. Mature bull moose. 523 yards. Roughly 2,180 impact velocity. Quartering slightly away. Moose was hit once, moved forward 20 feet behind some trees. Before I could shoot again he dropped (less than 5 seconds).

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The “dreaded shoulder shot” with a “small bullet”…

Entrance.

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Entered above shoulder bone and tore through lung. Sliced the bottom of the heart on the way through to the exit side lung. Broke two ribs and part of the scalpula before exiting. Both lungs were chunky mush and lung chunks on the ground and tree behind the moose where he was shot.

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Two finger sized wound channel on the entrance side turned into a 4+ finger sized wound channel most of the way through the animal.

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Congrats!!!
 

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Congrats and thanks for the awesome pics! I just bought more of the 80gr ELDM's last week. I'd be interested in the load and rifle.
Thanks.

Factory Hornady 22 Creedmoor Precision Hunter ammo.

Factory Tikka rifle re-chambered to 22 Creed and factory Tikka 8 twist 22-250 barrel cut and threaded.

Rokstok, Maven RS1.2 scope, UM Tikka rings.

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80 grain ELDX. Mature bull moose. 523 yards. Roughly 2,180 impact velocity. Quartering slightly away. Moose was hit once, moved forward 20 feet behind some trees. Before I could shoot again he dropped (less than 5 seconds).

View attachment 763019

The “dreaded shoulder shot” with a “small bullet”…

Entrance.

View attachment 763015

Entered above shoulder bone and tore through lung. Sliced the bottom of the heart on the way through to the exit side lung. Broke two ribs and part of the scalpula before exiting. Both lungs were chunky mush and lung chunks on the ground and tree behind the moose where he was shot.

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Two finger sized wound channel on the entrance side turned into a 4+ finger sized wound channel most of the way through the animal.

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Great job, love seeing the 22CM doing what they do so well.
 

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80 grain ELDX. Mature bull moose. 523 yards. Roughly 2,180 impact velocity. Quartering slightly away. Moose was hit once, moved forward 20 feet behind some trees. Before I could shoot again he dropped (less than 5 seconds).

View attachment 763019

The “dreaded shoulder shot” with a “small bullet”…

Entrance.

View attachment 763015

Entered above shoulder bone and tore through lung. Sliced the bottom of the heart on the way through to the exit side lung. Broke two ribs and part of the scalpula before exiting. Both lungs were chunky mush and lung chunks on the ground and tree behind the moose where he was shot.

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Two finger sized wound channel on the entrance side turned into a 4+ finger sized wound channel most of the way through the animal.

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Do you have any experience with 77TMKs to compare to the 80ELD-X performance? E.g. penetration and terminal performance along their path? Looks like they performed fantastically at that velocity, which would be within reach for a 223 as far as I typically shoot anyway.
 
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Thanks.

Factory Hornady 22 Creedmoor Precision Hunter ammo.

Factory Tikka rifle re-chambered to 22 Creed and factory Tikka 8 twist 22-250 barrel cut and threaded.

Rokstok, Maven RS1.2 scope, UM Tikka rings.
What length of barrel are you getting the 3140 fps from?
 

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Do you have any experience with 77TMKs to compare to the 80ELD-X performance? E.g. penetration and terminal performance along their path? Looks like they performed fantastically at that velocity, which would be within reach for a 223 as far as I typically shoot anyway.
This is my first big game season with .224 bullets. Results to follow here. Much more to come.
 
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