.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

ztc92

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This is Horandy’s listing for the 22 ARC in a bolt gun. Pretty awesome with the 88’s. I recently grabbed a 22ARC in the new Ruger Gen 2. Once I have it put together I’ll update what I get with the 88’s. I’m excited to give it a go. It is definitely set up to shoot the longer bullets. I debated on doing the 223ai it looks sweet as well.
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Is this chart for a 24” barrel?

Assuming 2800 FPS for a 20” barrel, that 88 ELDM would hold 1800 FPS to 750 yards at a DA 5000 feet. It’s also a 6 MPH gun for wind at that speed which is not bad at all.

Even at 2700 FPS assuming a slow 18” barrel or a fast 16” barrel you’d still be good to 675 yards. That’s hard to argue with for a compact setup with factory ammo.
 

00SCSS

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I’ll check those out.

I did a bit of research and found a couple folks saying they were unable to get the 73gr ELD-Ms to shoot well in their White Oak Armory barrels. That’s what I happen to have so I changed my order over to 69gr Sierra TMKs.
They shot great in my white oak barrel.
 
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Is this chart for a 24” barrel?

Assuming 2800 FPS for a 20” barrel, that 88 ELDM would hold 1800 FPS to 750 yards at a DA 5000 feet. It’s also a 6 MPH gun for wind at that speed which is not bad at all.

Even at 2700 FPS assuming a slow 18” barrel or a fast 16” barrel you’d still be good to 675 yards. That’s hard to argue with for a compact setup with factory ammo.
Yes, it's for a 24" barrel.

 

WIDrake

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Man the new episode of the hornady podcast is trash. They have some good info in there such as how their bullets work - VELOCITY and they give numbers for eldx, cx, and one other one - and not energy. Way too much fudd lore with magnum or bust. If it kills a deer it'll kill and elk. There is no such thing as an elk bullet vs a deer bullet.
 

Bugger

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Man the new episode of the hornady podcast is trash. They have some good info in there such as how their bullets work - VELOCITY and they give numbers for eldx, cx, and one other one - and not energy. Way too much fudd lore with magnum or bust. If it kills a deer it'll kill and elk. There is no such thing as an elk bullet vs a deer bullet.
It’s not good for business to crash their own market by saying half of what they sell is unnecessary. Gotta sell them big PRC’s too!
 
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You mind sharing how much lever?
I want to say 23.5? I honestly cannot remember where I have that written down. It’s a grain or two below book max. I throw charges with a Harrels and don’t weigh them…have the “clicks” written down but can’t remember where I recorded actual weight. For this load, I actually just picked that charge weight, seated to mag length, shot 20 of them, and called it good.
 
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I want to say 23.5? I honestly cannot remember where I have that written down. It’s a grain or two below book max. I throw charges with a Harrels and don’t weigh them…have the “clicks” written down but can’t remember where I recorded actual weight. For this load, I actually just picked that charge weight, seated to mag length, shot 20 of them, and called it good.
I didn’t realize there was load data for lever in 223
 

jonandy

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Is this chart for a 24” barrel?

Assuming 2800 FPS for a 20” barrel, that 88 ELDM would hold 1800 FPS to 750 yards at a DA 5000 feet. It’s also a 6 MPH gun for wind at that speed which is not bad at all.

Even at 2700 FPS assuming a slow 18” barrel or a fast 16” barrel you’d still be good to 675 yards. That’s hard to argue with for a compact setup with factory ammo.
Yes, at the top of the page it shows hornady is using a 24” barrel. I agree pretty sweet for such a small cartridge.
 
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You might be right, could have sworn I found it somewhere at some point in time..in any case I am shooting some amount of lever that is working great and I do not remember the charge data 😂
I'm seeing some people report up to 26grs with 77s. I was just curious because it's usually available and cheaper
 

Thegman

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Finally got my tikka .223 mounted in a rokstock.

This is my el cheapo load..ABC 75gr BTHP, starline brass, lever. 22” barrel at 2820 fps didn’t try for any more speed

Zero adjusted after this group

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Do the numbered shots in this show the actual shot sequence? I ask because this is actually a really unusual group if that's the case. Very little variation shot-to-shot. The group just walks along shot to shot in a circle. Three more shots you'd have been back to where you started. 😅
 
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