.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[IRH1997]

Not legal for big game in Oregon. Surprised that it is legal for Elk in Idaho.

Obviously Elk aren't armor-plated. And if you think like a bowhunter the 223 will put one down. But you don't have much leeway with a 223. You can end up with a hit to tag ratio greater than 1.

I am a little worried about this statement - "The terminal performance is on par with anything I’ve seen in a .284 or .30. Unreal performance. The bullet is a BEAST!"

No, it is not "on par" with 30cal fodder - not even a 30-30. It is a very marginal cartridge/bullet that CAN work if the shooter stays within its limitations. Sorry to burst your bubble, but better now than this fall when you post a sob-story about how you made a good hit and never found the elk.

Second this, “on par” is far fetched

 

[Reburn]

Second this, “on par” is far fetched

Did you literally quote someone on page 1 from 2019 and not read past that?

 

[fwafwow]

Did you literally quote someone on page 1 from 2019 and not read past that?

Your rhetorical questions are on point

 

[Big_wals]

Second this, “on par” is far fetched

Come to think of it, you’re right, they’re not on par. The 223 with proper bullets is actually superior.

 

[Sadler]

My man!! How are you liking it? Seems like a bad ass setup to me

I’m a fan. Fire forming sucks but it’s a cool little cartridge. Extremely low recoil, cheap to reload, components are everywhere, and it’ll kill well past my abilities. It’ll be going on an elk and mule deer hunt with me this year. I had it close to 2900
Just to test the limits but Norma brass doesn’t hold up well to that so I toned it down.

 

[wind gypsy]

The UM bottom metal and mags are and answer to long action cartridges and seem like a downgrade from the factory mags for short action hunting config.

High desert bottom metal and waters mags for 223 or factory plastic for standard short action cartridges FTW. The waters AICS pattern mags look very nice as well.

 

[Reburn]

The UM bottom metal and mags are and answer to long action cartridges and seem like a downgrade from the factory mags for short action hunting config.

High desert bottom metal and waters mags for 223 or factory plastic for standard short action cartridges FTW. The waters AICS pattern mags look very nice as well.

The hells canyon mag in factory pattern bottm metal work very well for loaded longer 300 wsm and 6.5 prc stuff. The hells canyon feed like butter.

I am going to have to pick up some waters mags everyone seems to like them.

 

[fwafwow]

High Desert has been on my mind, especially in orange to match my future Rokstok. Then I looked at the Waters mags the other day. Maybe it was a long day, or it was another post-TBI moment, but I needed to spend more time figuring out which one I actually don’t need.

But I can probably just still with the plastic I have and shoot more.

 

[Gstew1930]

I’m a fan. Fire forming sucks but it’s a cool little cartridge. Extremely low recoil, cheap to reload, components are everywhere, and it’ll kill well past my abilities. It’ll be going on an elk and mule deer hunt with me this year. I had it close to 2900
Just to test the limits but Norma brass doesn’t hold up well to that so I toned it down.

Yeah that sounds awesome. I’m going to have to do that for sure. Fireforming doesn’t bother me. I’ll just practice & kill coyotes with those loads

 

[HNTR_NW]

Here’s to being a useful FNG- 77gr TMKs are available now on creedmoor sports and cabelas.

 

[WIDrake]

Hello fellow degenerate, I shoot the 88s in my 223AI and it’s a 1/7 twist. They stabilize fine and I’m getting around 2750 out of an 18” barrel.

This makes me think that with them loaded long in an mdt poly mag and a 6.5 or 7 kreig at 26" I might be able to get 2750 with a standard.... My god the temptation...

 

[flyfisher117]

Raynham police shoot bull that caused crash on I-495, charged at them

Police said in a social media post that the bull was loose in the area of Elm Street East and Interstate 495.

turnto10.com

Sounds like this officers needs to attend the Shoot2Hunt University. saw this article and immediately thought of this thread. Anyone seen any additional details as to what projectile or where the bull was shot?

 

[Taudisio]

We just got done cutting up the meat from this gal. My first bear with a 5.56, I switched to an “unconventional” method to hunt bears and chose one of my gassers for the job. The amount of bear hunters I’ve run into has been enough to make me change things up. Black hills 77gr tmk’s did the work at the longer than expected shot distance, 40 yards.

 

[Tahr]

2 yesterday with the 77TMK. Neck shot 210 yards. Crease shot 110 yards and dropped pretty much on the spot. Lung damage only. Nothing spectacular. Lung shot didn't pass through.

 

[Matt5266]

Not to de-rail the thread but I've tried searching on here for some good load data info on the 77 tmk and cant find any. This is the first time I'll be hand loading them in my newish Tikka. If someone could possibly message me a link or send me what has worked for you I'd appreciate it. Mine is chopped at 18 inches. About what distance is that dropping off to 1800 fps? PM is fine. As I said I dont want to derail this thread but I don't want to start a new post either just because my search game is weak. Thanks

 

[sveltri]

Not to de-rail the thread but I've tried searching on here for some good load data info on the 77 tmk and cant find any. This is the first time I'll be hand loading them in my newish Tikka. If someone could possibly message me a link or send me what has worked for you I'd appreciate it. Mine is chopped at 18 inches. About what distance is that dropping off to 1800 fps? PM is fine. As I said I dont want to derail this thread but I don't want to start a new post either just because my search game is weak. Thanks

What powders do you have to choose from?

 

[Matt5266]

What powders do you have to choose from?

For rifle loads H335, varget, imr 4350, h4350 and blc2. Im not opposed to buying a new powder. I've heard tac and xbr but the xbr is impossible to find in my area and when you do it's about $65 a pound.

 

[Nine Banger]

Here’s to being a useful FNG- 77gr TMKs are available now on creedmoor sports and cabelas.

I just got some from Midway I must have backordered so long ago I can't recall ever doing so.

 

[sveltri]

For rifle loads H335, varget, imr 4350, h4350 and blc2. Im not opposed to buying a new powder. I've heard tac and xbr but the xbr is impossible to find in my area and when you do it's about $65 a pound.

Hodgdon has data available for BLC-2, 335, and Varget. There are more options but somewhere to start with what you have.

Reloading Data Center – Hodgdon Reloading Data Center

hodgdonreloading.com

 

[jonandy]

In addition to my pile of 77 TMK slingers I picked up a 6 ARC too. 108 ELDMs show expansion velocities out to 550 as well. 20” upper. Excited to tinker with it too. The kiddos have taken about all of my 5.56 uppers haha.


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Just curious, what bullet weight are you putting in the calculator? Yours is showing way more energy than I’m getting?