Has anyone been able to make lung soup and pop the stomach on one shot from broadside? I tried 223/tmk for the first time this year on a large whitetail doe and was surprised by that.
I talked a friend into trying the 77tmk out of a 22 creed and he had the same results on a larger buck, otherwise Id figure mine was an anomaly. So high impact velocity, behind the shoulder shots. Definitely not gut shots but the stomach was popped is the only way to describe it. The lungs were mush.
I'd rather not high shoulder and lose meat on a whitetail, but im thinking I will use the tmk as a neck shot round inside reasonable ranges. No chance it's penciling through.
I didn't take any photos. It seemed like a standard double lung with where I hit and how she went down. I was probably 3" back from the shoulder. There was liver damage as well as the stomach was opened. It was a surprise when dressing and it was too messy to clean myself up for photos.Got any pictures of the entrance/exit? I'd be curious to see how close to the liver/guts you were. Is it possible a bullet fragment went that direction and popped a hole. Or are you talking the guts were completely torn open?
Definitely a 9mm used here.I shot a whitetail doe with a .223/77 grain TMK. Impact velocity was around 2350 FPS. She ran about 40 yards and piled up. There was no blood trail. Here's what's left of the heart and lungs.
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?Definitely a 9mm used here.
Mr. Foster states/claims that this is due to rapid expansion of the chest/diaphragm followed by collapse creating a pressure differential that ruptured the rumen. The source I’m paraphrasing from is his 75 Amax on goats commentary from his website if you are inclined to look.I'm guessing it was fragments that did it. It was caliber sized entrance and stuck in ribs/hide on the other side. I just wouldn't have shot behind the shoulder if I'd have known it would be that messy. I was just curious if it was common, but 2/2 same result for my friend and I.
I’ve tuned him (joe) out this year so I didn’t know he said that. Thanks guys.Because a 9mm "will blow their lungs out" according to the President....Joe
Just don’t shoot an SMK from an AR with a pistol brace. Most likely knock the earth off it’s axis!
The 80g ELDM shoots fantastic, I'd assume the eld-x would too with the same form factor.Anyone loaded 80 grain eldx in 1/8 223?
Would they stabilize?
I know those 77's are the "one and done" but these look interesting
I know after market mag would be needed
150gr SST's out of a 30-06 can cause too much damage in a deer. On par with what my 77gr TMK did to this years deer. Seen it, through the scope this time.My how times have changed…
2019- “.223 calibers are way to small to kill reliably!!!”
2023- “77gr TMK’s cause too much damage”.
Haha.
I quite watching the Clown Show a while ago so I hadn't heard that.Because a 9mm "will blow there lungs out" according to the President....Joe