.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[amassi]

Thanks for sharing. I have a win pre-64 220 swift, but it’s got a slow twist. Was looking at these, the Sierra 55gr game king #1365, or the 55gr gold dot. Figured I would get about 3800fps out of it. Have you used any other or just the hornady bullet?

I’ve mentioned before on this thread but the 64 gr power point is a stellar hunting bullet out of the 22-250 and works in the slow twists


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[Dirtbag]

I've heard in other places the Hornady 55SP works really well, have never used on on game though myself. Impressive how well it holds up to even Swift velocity.

They are a sweet little bullet. They act a lot more like a bonded bullet than you'd expect. Hornady does make a SP SX which is supposed to be much more explosive. I dont buy them though so unsure of the real difference.

 

[Dirtbag]

Thanks for sharing. I have a win pre-64 220 swift, but it’s got a slow twist. Was looking at these, the Sierra 55gr game king #1365, or the 55gr gold dot. Figured I would get about 3800fps out of it. Have you used any other or just the hornady bullet?

I haven't tried the Gameking or the Gold dots (yet!) but they are both on my list. an acquaintance has urged me to try 55 grain Nosler ballistic tips after having used it on deer with good results so thats the next experiment.

So far the 55 grain Hornadys and both 52-53 Matchkings have been excellent and have roughly the same POI so I can swap back and forth between them without monkeying around. Hard to change when they work as well as they do!

 

[Reddish]

I may have posted this on other threads and unsure if how much its been discussed but I do want to make a post regarding some lighter bullets as well. Other posters have certainly made the great case for heavier stuff like the .22 77 TMK, I wanted to reassure anyone you can still have really spectacular (quite surprising in many cases) results with light pills. If you have have a rifle that can't spin heavies or you just want to try light stuff for fun, they flat out work.

55 grain Hornady SP, around 3800fps, .220 swift around hundred yards. 15 yards and down.

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55 grain Hornady SP, around 3800fps, .220 swift at 305 yards, Coues deer, DRT.

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The cute little 55 grain SP mushroom from the Coues deer. they almost always look like this and stick underneath the skin of the offside on deer. vitals are turned to stew.
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52 grain Sierra HPBT Matchking, at 3800, .220 swift somewhere between 100-200 yards. inside were jelly. bullets fragments throughout including offside skin. 60 yards sprint and dead.

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53 grain FB Sierra Matchking at 3800, .220 swift around 100 yards frontal. vitals were soup, didnt bother with bullet recovery. tipped over in less than 20 yards.

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I'm very confident with .22 centerfires. Speed kills.

.220 Swift is definitely a killer. Frank Glaser would be proud.

 

[letrbuck]

Nosler 22 cal Bonded Performance 64gr Solid Base bullets

Nosler 22 Cal 64gr Bonded Solid Base Bullets

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Berger's calculator shows them to be marginally stable in a 14 twist, but I bet those would be pretty sweet at 220 Swift speeds!

 

[Dirtbag]

.220 Swift is definitely a killer. Frank Glaser would be proud.

I read that book shortly after I bought my swift completely unknowing that he had used one. I was thrilled when I read about his use and love for it. Now just think how much bullets and powder have improved since then...

 

[Dirtbag]

Nosler 22 cal Bonded Performance 64gr Solid Base bullets

Nosler 22 Cal 64gr Bonded Solid Base Bullets

ravenrocksprecision.com

Berger's calculator shows them to be marginally stable in a 14 twist, but I bet those would be pretty sweet at 220 Swift speeds!

I havent tried anything over 55 grains yet but there is quite a few compelling bullets I'd like to try in that 60-69 gr range. 60 grain SP, partition, gamekings and this Nosler.

When I am up for a re-barrel I will likely go to .220AI for the mechanical advantages but also a slight bump in speed. may go to a 1-12 twist, havent decided.

a 60 grain partition at 3800fps, count me in.

 

[NoveskeEnjoyer]

I estimate this deer at 110# live weight. I shot it 1 hour before I left for work, so the autopsy of soft tissue regarding lungs etc. Will have to be verbal. I noted significant blood in the chest cavity upon splitting the sternum. The path through the lung tissue was roughly 1.25-1.5" across. No fragmentation was noted. The damage to the liver was roughly the size of a nickel. Due to the frontal nature of the shot (the deer was very nearly facing me dead on, albeit with his left shoulder and rear him slightly toward me, the projectile's path through the vitals was not as "text book" as a broadside shot which somewhat limits our ability to ascertain its terminal disruption. However, the projectile seems to have a deep and more narrow wound path with sharp demarcation which indicates good velocity through the target as well as sharp edges, as opposed to a round like the RA556B or similar which adopt a more "blob" shape.) The projectile did not seem to directly impact the spine but did pass very near. He immediately locked up and went down and did not move again. Blood at the site was minimal and mainly from his nose/mouth. The rest of the pertinent data follows in a video I will upload.

Weapon: 11.5" sbr
Ammo: 70gr tsx
Range: 95m
Estimated impact velocity based on prior 100m chrono data for this weapon and ammo: 2350fps

Thanks for sharing. That round seems to never disappoint.

 

[kswaterfowl]

I haven't tried the Gameking or the Gold dots (yet!) but they are both on my list. an acquaintance has urged me to try 55 grain Nosler ballistic tips after having used it on deer with good results so thats the next experiment.

So far the 55 grain Hornadys and both 52-53 Matchkings have been excellent and have roughly the same POI so I can swap back and forth between them without monkeying around. Hard to change when they work as well as they do!

I've never shot a deer with the nosler ballistic tips, but they are my absolute favorite bullet for coyotes.

 

[fwafwow]

22 CM at sub 100 yards.

 

[Justin Crossley]

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22 CM at sub 100 yards.

Is that all that's left of the rabbit? LOL

Looks devastating.

 

[fwafwow]

Is that all that's left of the rabbit? LOL

Looks devastating.

Not my shot, but very messy. That’s the heart. It was very difficult to see the entry and even the exit wound but plenty of damage internally. Was a Berger loaded by McWhorter.

 

[Tahr]

People talking about 55 grn. From a 223 at 3150 mv. 240 yards. Ran about 30 yards. Fallow deer about whitetail size.

55 grn Gameking. Found under far side skin. Pic of entry under shoulder.

 

[SquatchHunter]

I've heard in other places the Hornady 55SP works really well, have never used on on game though myself. Impressive how well it holds up to even Swift velocity.

I shot a raccoon out of my 16” AR with one before. 100 yards out. It made a mess.

 

[JohnDough]

Thanks for sharing. That round seems to never disappoint.

I've found it to expand reliably as long as you keep velocities up to 1900+, and it always penetrates well. Typical destruction isn't insane, but it's what I'd call "A reliable bullet". Kindof like the Glock 19. It's not the highest capacity, it's not the whateverest, but it WILL work, and it's proven.

 

[sargent]

I shot a whitetail doe with a .223/77 grain TMK. Impact velocity was around 2350 FPS. She ran about 40 yards and piled up. There was no blood trail. Here's what's left of the heart and lungs.

 

[mt terry d]

More 77 gr TMK and 223 and less other bullets and cartridges like the thread began maybe?

( Not saying the experience with other bullets isn't interesting and worthwhile )

 

[xsn10s]

I’m sure they scrubbed it as bullying but I posted 7 cow elk all hanging at a meat processor and got the hammer fan club all fired up about those magic little bullets. When I revealed they were 80g eld m out of a 22-250 no one believed it and I got temporarily banned


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Where was this at?

 

[amassi]

Where was this at?

Long range hunting ie hammer time 2.0.
The elk were from Utah


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[ThatDUDE]

Long range hunting ie hammer time 2.0.
The elk were from Utah


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Any more information on the cow elk with the 80 ELDM? Yardages etc?