Grundy53
WKR
This was my thinking. TMKs are hard to find. Save them for hunting. Shoot these up at the range.I buy 77gr SMK for practice, etc. Save the TMKs for bloodletting.
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This was my thinking. TMKs are hard to find. Save them for hunting. Shoot these up at the range.I buy 77gr SMK for practice, etc. Save the TMKs for bloodletting.
Was it the link I dropped?223 isn’t legal for deer or big game where I hunt. Still, I have waded through this thread (took me several sessions!) and I have found it informative and interesting.
So thanks for everyone who has made constructive posts in it.
The TMK seems to punch above its caliber and is a formidable load.
Seeing mention of this thread on snipershide is what brought me to rokslide.
DJL2,Was it the link I dropped?
The TMK is a great bullet across the range, really. Next to the ELD-M, it’s my favorite “do it all” choice.
My own experience with SMK vs TMK tracks the conventional wisdom concerning tangent ogive “traditional” bullets and secant/VLD ogive designs. For me, the TMK have always exhibited sensitivity to “jump” - so much so that I’ve experienced three different powders and multiple charge weights shooting ~.65” average per 5@100 when it’s right and refusing to group under 1-1.5” when it’s not.DJL2,
I’ve shot some really tight groups quite consistently with the SMKs, but the TMKs seem to not do as well. But, for hunting or defense, a 1moa rifle/ammo cmbination is probably just as good as .75moa.
Cheers!
I’ll second that. My experience across 6 guns was also just as good with the 73 ELD. For folks suggesting a separate bullet for practice, I’d suggest using it due to lower cost than the SMK, and closer BC to the TMK.I have found the 77 TMK the easiest heavy .224 to tune bar none, in quite a few rifles
I've found this to also be true. The 75eldm did not work out for my tikka 1:8 but I practice at 600ft elevation. The 73eldm has been great as a practice bullet, and I have an accurate load for 77tmk for this hunting season. Interestingly, the 73eldm has a very slightly better BC than the 77tmk (AB data) and I'm getting an extra 80fps with it over the TMK.I’ll second that. My experience across 6 guns was also just as good with the 73 ELD. For folks suggesting a separate bullet for practice, I’d suggest using it due to lower cost than the SMK, and closer BC to the TMK.
I’ve found the zero to be within .1-.3 mil in both axes for my rigs.
I really wanted the 75 ELDs to work too and I spent way too much time and money on them. the 73s just don't seem to care about the gun, chamber/seating depth at all. My go-to, non finicky, precision load for 223/5.56 is the 73 ELD with basically any primer and any amount of Varget.I've found this to also be true. The 75eldm did not work out for my tikka 1:8 but I practice at 600ft elevation. The 73eldm has been great as a practice bullet, and I have an accurate load for 77tmk for this hunting season. Interestingly, the 73eldm has a very slightly better BC than the 77tmk (AB data) and I'm getting an extra 80fps with it over the TMK.
There's a book or an app. The app updates every time a new bullet is added to the libraryI really wanted the 75 ELDs to work too and I spent way too much time and money on them. the 73s just don't seem to care about the gun, chamber/seating depth at all. My go-to, non finicky, precision load for 223/5.56 is the 73 ELD with basically any primer and any amount of Varget.
And yeah, definitely faster.
Where can a fella find the AB data?
The AB app is worth the 30 bucks.I really wanted the 75 ELDs to work too and I spent way too much time and money on them. the 73s just don't seem to care about the gun, chamber/seating depth at all. My go-to, non finicky, precision load for 223/5.56 is the 73 ELD with basically any primer and any amount of Varget.
And yeah, definitely faster.
Where can a fella find the AB data?
Ha, I have the app. Just dug into the listed BCs in the library that i already have set up. No wonder they seem to drop so similarly. Doh!There's a book or an app. The app updates every time a new bullet is added to the library
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Me too, and likewise the 7mm 150 ELDMI really wanted the 75 ELDs to work too and I spent way too much time and money on them.
Guess that shows how much I use my Vortex Fury IIs with applied ballistics these days instead. Thanks @Formidilosus
Yeah, I’m all about it. No complaints. Wish the ballistics solution came up a little faster, but that’s splitting hairs I reckon.Working well for you?
Yeah, I’m all about it. No complaints. Wish the ballistics solution came up a little faster, but that’s splitting hairs I reckon.
I don’t own any of its competitors to compare to, but have been using it for a little over a year now. I’m happy with the glass, really like the continuous scanning/ranging, and was surprised at how easy and quick it is to get a windage calculation when there’s time. That’s a feature I figured I’d never use.Nah, it is a bit slow to pop up, but given all around usability, it’s solid I think.