.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Jimbee]

I won’t clutter up the 223 thread with it, I’ll post a thread, probably a good idea considering we have a few of us on here using it.

Intrinsic accuracy is a thing, more need to know!

Weren't you talking of experimenting with a 223AI? Anything to share?

 

[Lawnboi]

Weren't you talking of experimenting with a 223AI? Anything to share?

Yea I was going to. Decided to just make both guns dashers and simplify

Having a second rifle that’s legal in all the places I hunt was also a significant factor.

 

[Nine Banger]

Well that worked out.

16" factory barrel.

 

[The Guide]

Well that worked out.

16" factory barrel.

Nice. I'm still waiting on my ammo. I didn't get a cancelation notice but still haven't received the ammo.

Jay

 

[Tahr]

Live action. 313 yds and 74 grn Berger jacketed custom. 2,950 mv.
Centre of shoulder hit - I allowed for a left to right breeze.

 

[TennesseeJohn]

An obvious troll by a notorious troll but here we are.

Perhaps the dumbest part is when his “expert” is baffled by the fact that an ELDM behaves differently than a varmint bullet.

 

[Wmaples]

I read every post in this thread and I agree grass looks like the color 7 tastes

 

[Valumpessa]

I read every post in this thread and I agree grass looks like the color 7 tastes

 

[Halligan]

An obvious troll by a notorious troll but here we are.

Perhaps the dumbest part is when his “expert” is baffled by the fact that an ELDM behaves differently than a varmint bullet.

Someone may have left a subtle challenge for them to do a podcast with shoot2hunt in there comments.
Curious if they would given their *lack of* evidence

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Someone may have left a subtle challenge for them to do a podcast with shoot2hunt in there comments.
Curious if they would given their *lack of* evidence

I doubt it, they're just trying to get clicks and views off RS's back by dropping the name and spouting off.

 

[Shev7chenko]

Just saw this today.

 

[Shev7chenko]

New to the forum. Stumbled on this thread just researching 223 rounds. Not a hunter, only been hunting once and did not get a chance to kill a deer and it was still one of the best times of my life. Needless to say I started reading the thread and was instantly hooked. Close to the 300 page mark. Anyway I wanted to contribute some data for those looking for a very low cost round that punches way above its weight. Might be good for practice and some game (again I am not a hunter so I would not know what this round does first hand). I picked it up at 45 cents per round and I think it is currently 48. Seems to be the same as the USA RED or the old purple LE training rounds. Thank you to the OP and subsequently all of the contributors. Outstanding thread that is a wealth of knowledge.

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20" FN cold hammer forged chrome lined 1:7, enhanced polished mil spec trigger, viper pst gen 2 2-10. Other ammo groups for reference from the same gun.

7 out of 10 on a 4” gong at 427 LRF yards. The misses were just of the gong. I’m pretty happy with this combo.

 

[mt100gr.]

An obvious troll by a notorious troll but here we are.

Perhaps the dumbest part is when his “expert” is baffled by the fact that an ELDM behaves differently than a varmint bullet.

Is it bad that I don't know the notorious troll? Let alone the other ding dong delivering what can only be described as golden drops of wisdom....

 

[TennesseeJohn]

No. I wish the algorithm had never put me on it a while back.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

No. I wish the algorithm had never put me on it a while back.

Then why link it here to give him more views?

 

[TennesseeJohn]

Then why link it here to give him more views?

Because of the specific RS callout and the excellent example of the kind of “expertise” that’s still out there concerning the .223.

 

[The Guide]

It is just more proof showing how people equate one thing for another. Thinking that a 80 ELDM is the same as a 77 TMK proves that people don't understand bullet construction, neck length for expansion, or how velocity affects expansion. A prairie dog hit in the chest with an 80 ELDM 2300 fps (500 yards) isn't going to have the same expansion as one hit in the guts (full of grass and water) at 2650 fps (300 yards). Velocity, bullet construction, and shot placement matter on all animals. The 6mm Creedmoor sucks for prairie dogs too when shot with a 95 LRX...

Jay

 

[Pharmseller]

I know a guy who shot a jackrabbit with a 460 Wby Mag.

Bunny ran off. Died pretty quick but it ran off.

 

[Pharmseller]

Also, there’s a vid somewhere of a guy shooting an average-sized Whitetail doe through the ribs with a 50 cal. She ran quite a ways.

 

[HuntHarder]

Also, there’s a vid somewhere of a guy shooting an average-sized Whitetail doe through the ribs with a 50 cal. She ran quite a ways.

.223 with heavy for caliber bullets and made by Sierra, would have dropped her.