.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

First two and last two. I’ve read many, many similar threads on many different forums over the years. My opinion hasn’t faltered. My hunting style is still based on spot and stalk. I just picked up a Ruger Alaskan Bush Rifle in 9.3x62, if that tells you anything. How many pages have you read?
 
It looked like your point of aim was the front of the shoulder. Is that pretty common in NZ? I tried it this year on my cow elk with the same result. It was an instant drop. I have read something about a big nerve bundle in that area that causes collapse when it's hit.
I'm not overly sophisticated about aiming point but anywhere close to this puts them down. On bigger stags Im inclined to move to the crease for a lung shot with the .223. A good frangible bullet is important. This was deer 10 for 10 shots this yearIMG_3729.jpeg
 
I’ll add that I have 4 bolt action .223’s, and 6 semi’s. My Ruger KGSR is my truck gun. Just so you know that I’m not basing my opinion off of a sample of one…
 
First two and last two. I’ve read many, many similar threads on many different forums over the years. My opinion hasn’t faltered. My hunting style is still based on spot and stalk. I just picked up a Ruger Alaskan Bush Rifle in 9.3x62, if that tells you anything. How many pages have you read?
I wonder how many foot pounds would be necessary to kill a moose in a spot and stalk scenario?
 
However many it takes. In my case, keeping my OIL Shiras from bailing off into a cliffy area. All that a 225 gr NPT .338 Win Mag could generate at 240 yds.
 

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However many it takes. In my case, keeping my OIL Shiras from bailing off into a cliffy area. All that a 225 gr NPT .338 Win Mag could generate at 240 yds.
Those little Shiras bulls are pretty cute.

Good thing there aren’t many cliffs up North. We don’t have to worry about them jumping over the edge so we can just anchor them with a 223 and an 88 ELD m. Plenty of whallop.
 

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