.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[omicron1792]

That did look pretty slow to me too

 

[Steve300xcw]

Any info on the load data for that 75 over lvr?

Always seems to be 25-26.5gr of lever with a 75gr. Rem 7-1/2's take a bit more pressure. Expecially of your firing pin hole is a bit large.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Just an FYI for anyone interested, Midway has 500 and 100 count 77 gr. TMKs in stock.

 

[Pharmseller]

I’m still sad walrus was removed.

When my boy was little he couldn’t say walrus. It turned into warwif. Plural, warwifsizz.

I would really like to see a version of the .223 and 6mm threads titled "below 2200fps impact velocity kills".

At this point, it seems pretty silly to dispute the ability of these bullets to wreck deer and elk at 0-400 yards out of guns sending them at 2700-3200fps. I'm much more curious to see the results filtered for lower velocities.

It's just a continuation of the "less recoil makes you a better shot." line of thinking.

My 475 yard ELDM kill from 2 years ago was 2150 or thereabouts.




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[mt terry d]

I would really like to see a version of the .223 and 6mm threads titled "below 2200fps impact velocity kills".

At this point, it seems pretty silly to dispute the ability of these bullets to wreck deer and elk at 0-400 yards out of guns sending them at 2700-3200fps. I'm much more curious to see the results filtered for lower velocities.

It's just a continuation of the "less recoil makes you a better shot." line of thinking.

One cow elk, one shot at 370 yards calculates @ 2207fps.

 

[Dtp465]

I have a 223 Tikka Lite that I’m thinking of having the barrel cut down. What’s the general length most are going with? 18”?

 

[Schmo]

I have a 223 Tikka Lite that I’m thinking of having the barrel cut down. What’s the general length most are going with? 18”?

That’s what I currently have, and would recommend. You can still get good speed with heavies

Is yours an 8 twist?

 

[Ajsomp]

I have a 223 Tikka Lite that I’m thinking of having the barrel cut down. What’s the general length most are going with? 18”?

How much velocity are you looking to get?

I went 18” and I can always cut it again if I want it shorter. But 18” was reasonable enough for me to keep velocity where I want it and having a suppressor on it isn’t too long

 

[Drenalin]

I just dropped one off to be cut to 16. I don’t think the velocity lost makes enough difference to make a difference, at least for me.

 

[Dtp465]

That’s what I currently have, and would recommend. You can still get good speed with heavies

Is yours an 8 twist?

Yes 8 twist.

How much velocity are you looking to get?

I went 18” and I can always cut it again if I want it shorter. But 18” was reasonable enough for me to keep velocity where I want it and having a suppressor on it isn’t too long

~2700 with 77s

 

[Ajsomp]

I think I’m seeing 2750ish from black hills out of the 18” tikka

 

[Matt5266]

Ya I went 18 inch and love it. 8 twist Tikka. Avg 2768 FPS with 77 TMK handloads

 

[SouthPaw]

79g DRT for CA. 10x fired Lapua, 23g XBR, cci450. 2800fps from a 20".

 

[Kaleb]

I cut mine at 17-18 can’t remember it’s been a while. Looking at the garmin app it’s 2830 with 26.3 of lever and 75amax. I haven’t kept up with how many I’ve shot on crop damage permits but it’s several. Not hundreds a year like some guys do so I don’t want to be misleading. The farthest shot has been in the 460’s I remember that. Pretty handy rifle. Just a regular SS 223 in a ctr take off with ctr bm and magazine. This year I have the maven on it but the past 5-6 it had a 3-9 SWFA. Sports match rings.

 

[ericmcd]

79g DRT for CA. 10x fired Lapua, 23g XBR, cci450. 2800fps from a 20".

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An FYI for everyone, I did a ladder with 79 DRTs and XBR and pierced a primer at 23.2 while it was around 80°. I was using cci400s which are soft

 

[Steve300xcw]

Time for some rem 7-1/2's

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Re: practice ammo, I've been shooting Norma Golden Target Match 77gr SMK's but I'm down to 80 rounds left of the 400 I bought last fall at $0.90/rd. Not seeing any on Ammoseek currently. I shot 152 over the chrono, average 2633.5 FPS with 24.9 SD, 127.7 ES.

Black Hills 77gr TMK has been 2735.7 FPS average with 25.4 SD and 71 ES over 75 shots over the chrono.

Any recommendations on these options for loaded SMK's?

Remington Premier, $0.75/rd
PMC X-TAC, $1.03/rd
Federal Gold, $1.25/rd

That's what I'm seeing so far that I can confirm uses the SMK.

 

[Bluumoon]

Re: practice ammo, I've been shooting Norma Golden Target Match 77gr SMK's but I'm down to 80 rounds left of the 400 I bought last fall at $0.90/rd. Not seeing any on Ammoseek currently. I shot 152 over the chrono, average 2633.5 FPS with 24.9 SD, 127.7 ES.

Black Hills 77gr TMK has been 2735.7 FPS average with 25.4 SD and 71 ES over 75 shots over the chrono.

Any recommendations on these options for loaded SMK's?

Remington Premier, $0.75/rd
PMC X-TAC, $1.03/rd
Federal Gold, $1.25/rd

That's what I'm seeing so far that I can confirm uses the SMK.

That Norma shot very well for me, but was blowing primers (and bolt shrouds) left and right. Check out Bone Frog 77 gr Nosler otm stuff, it shot outstanding groups for me. I think it’s around .85 per shipped this weekend, their TMK a $1 per (albeit a little slow, around 1.3” 20 round groups).

 

[BLJ]

Re: practice ammo, I've been shooting Norma Golden Target Match 77gr SMK's but I'm down to 80 rounds left of the 400 I bought last fall at $0.90/rd. Not seeing any on Ammoseek currently. I shot 152 over the chrono, average 2633.5 FPS with 24.9 SD, 127.7 ES.

Black Hills 77gr TMK has been 2735.7 FPS average with 25.4 SD and 71 ES over 75 shots over the chrono.

Any recommendations on these options for loaded SMK's?

Remington Premier, $0.75/rd
PMC X-TAC, $1.03/rd
Federal Gold, $1.25/rd

That's what I'm seeing so far that I can confirm uses the SMK.

ADI makes good stuff if you’re not set on 77’s.
The 69’s do very well for me in my 1/8 RAR’s.
They’re not as good in my 1/8 Tikka, but there’s a lot of people here who have had success with the 55’s.

 

[ztc92]

ADI makes good stuff if you’re not set on 77’s.
The 69’s do very well for me in my 1/8 RAR’s.
They’re not as good in my 1/8 Tikka, but there’s a lot of people here who have had success with the 55’s.

Second this, the ADI ammo I’ve used work great in my tikka. I annd others have also had good luck with the AAC 77 OTM. They were close to the 77 SMK’s in my gun. Slightly larger groups but perfectly fine for the 100 yard training portion of the class.