.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Anyone tried the stand 1 77TMK recently. Sounds like people were getting 100fps faster than black hills a couple of years ago. It is in stock right now.
 
The AAC TMK's I recently ordered were .86 a round and ended up being 1.01 a round after tax and shipping. Still not a bad deal considering the black hills load is more like 1.50 a round but considering they grouped almost twice the size of the black hills TMK and mk262 loads at 100 yards out of both of the guns I was using this weekend I doubt I'll buy anymore and will just stick with my mk262 clone handloads for practice ammo.
 
This is what interests me about the 22 ARC. Using a 20" barrel and 88eldm rounds you would be in about the same range as a 223 for velocity but pushing 88gr vs 77gr.

I have 1 example of the 77gr TMK and am sold on it. With everyone else's experience, it gives me confidence. The only reason for interest in the 22 ARC and 88gr is to fight the wind. You can find the 22 ARC 88gr eldm on sale for $24/box of 20. This puts it at about the same cost per round as the Black Hills 77gr TMK. (About $1.25/round) The down side is that in 223, you can use the AAC 77gr TMK for practice at $0.80/ round and there is not a cheaper practice round for the 22 ARC to my knowledge in the 88gr option... as of today.

For convenience, practice and performance, the Tikka 223 and 77gr TMK is still the all around winner!

If some is good, more is better. Why not go 22 creed? Your barrel life is such that practicing with your hunting rounds is feasible IMO. The only arc that interests me is the 6 but in all honesty, only in a gas gun.
 
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